Report: Packers intend to sign TE Jimmy Graham for 3 years· Page 5

isocleas2
Member

6 years ago

I'd like to see the Packers resign Richard Rodgers (2yr/4mil), draft a TE or two with some of those middle/late round picks they've stockpiled and call it at day. They have other needs elsewhere to address.

I know Graham is no Gronkowski but he provides a red zone threat that is badly needed. Tbh that was really what Jordy was living on last year (with Rodgers) was his ability to get open in the red zone where top end speed doesn't matter. If Graham replaces Jordy in ANY regard it should be this.

The best part of Graham signing is its another mismatch player the Packers can use to identify defense packages and exploit linebackers. Imagine when the Packers line up in a run formation then split Graham + Montgomery out wide. Rodgers is going to instantly see if its man or zone, identify the rushers etc.

It the meta offense this move provides more than what you're saying Barfan.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#42

Nelson completely fell off the chart because the new QB couldn't or wouldn't throw the ball more than 5 yards down the field and with Cobb and Adams being assigned most of the short routes (because they're quicker than Nelson) the new QB wouldn't throw it Nelson way even when he got open.

Also I fixed your statement about Graham... I don't think it's correct to simply call him a tightend period because that's how the Seahawks used him and asked him to block a lot at times and clearly that didn't work so well.

Originally Posted by: beast

If Jimmy Graham can get good at chipping defenders, that's going to be all we need. We would want a better blocker, yes, but what we need is someone to just knock a defender off balance which makes it easier for the OL to finish them off.

Jordy Nelson wasn't being thrown the ball because he wasn't getting open. I liked Jordy a lot. But, time caught up with him. I hope he has a great post-Packers life/career, but I'm OK with the move. Aaron Rodgers makes WR's and we can't shell out that kind of money for that production.

That kind of money, I'm talking about paying your WR1, WR2 and WR3 all over $10 million each. Something had to give. We fans knew this. We expected it. Shit, we were talking about one being cut anyway and expected it to be Jordy cuz of age, injuries, etc.

Barfarn
Senior Member

6 years ago

#43

Are new GM is a moron!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

This made me 🤣

Originally Posted by: musccy

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 ]

Damn, that is pretty funny!

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

Looks like he's not the only one.

Originally Posted by: beast

Now Beast you already had posted something else AFTER my [hilarious] gaff.

You then read musccy's TIMELY and perfectly APPROPRIATE post and decided to post.

You're like the guy who hears a well received joke told in the room and immediately tell the same joke with one little twist to get the same attention. Its kind of pathetic.

Also, piling-on someone's spelling deficiencies transitions from harmless fun to being nasty and perfectly classless. It what mean ole' bully children do, right WPR? [Snickering]

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#44

YOU WILL LEARN TO LOVE YOUR JIMMY!!!

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#45

Are Packers fans happy Jordy Nelson is almost 33, coming off another season where he was dinged up just after coming back from ACL, and isn't going to cost $10 against the cap? Probably not, most Packers fans are smart enough to know this is a business and shit happens.

Extending a soon-to-be 33 year old WR who's absolutely not the same as he was just few years ago is stupid. Packers fans would be PISSED off about that. Packers fans want Super Bowl rings, not Division titles.

Yes, losing Jordy stings, it sucks, I don't like it, but sure as hell won't condemn the Packers front office for doing what they feel is (and I agree) best for the Packers moving forward.

Jordy Nelson is going to get (guessing here) $5 this season with incentives to make more. If we want to FIX our defense, we need that money allocated elsewhere. Remember, we have Aaron Rodgers, who makes WR2's look like WR1's.

Also, keep in mind once Rodgers went down, Nelson DISAPPEARED! Davante Adams still lit it up, Randall Cobb even had a few good games. Nelson just completely fell off the chart.

As for TE Jimmy Graham, he is a tight end, period.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

So you are ok with paying Graham 30mil for 3 years.
His cap hit us being estimated at 8.5mil then 10.5 then 11.5 the 3rd year.
I'm ok with it.
What I'm not ok with is using that as an excuse to dump Jordy.
When I see Jimmy Graham lining up in a tight formation, taking on a DE or picking up a blitzing LB , helping in the run game, then I will call him a TE.
6'7 - 255 lbs. Doesn't make him a TE.
Hell All The Packer wr's block more than Graham ever has.
Jordy got thrown under the bus by the new GM.
He had better be right.
Please explain how paying Graham 30mil for 3 years helps to free up more cap space to use on defense?

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#46

Say it with me everyone! Jimmy Graham is NOT a WR!

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#47

Say it with me everyone! Jimmy Graham is NOT a WR!

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

So you are ok with paying Graham 30mil for 3 years.
His cap hit us being estimated at 8.5mil then 10.5 then 11.5 the 3rd year.
I'm ok with it.
What I'm not ok with is using that as an excuse to dump Jordy.
When I see Jimmy Graham lining up in a tight formation, taking on a DE or picking up a blitzing LB , helping in the run game, then I will call him a TE.

6'7 - 255 lbs. Doesn't make him a TE.

Hell All The Packer wr's block more than Graham ever has.

Jordy got thrown under the bus by the new GM.
He had better be right.

Please explain how paying Graham 30mil for 3 years helps to free up more cap space to use on defense?

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Maybe Packers are going the Patriots offensive method? A TE who can stretch the field with a bunch of no-name WR's who their elite QB makes look good? It worked when we had Jermichael Finley.

Graham is TE.
Nelson is WR.

I've explained what we need from a TE, and what we would want. Rodgers can make WR look better, easier than he can make WR look better. (assumption there) ... or maybe they feel the current slew or WR on the roster can very adequately get the job done whereas the TE group cannot.

Mucky Tundra
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#48

YOU WILL LEARN TO LOVE YOUR JIMMY!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

One thing I've picked up over the past few years from listening to Seahawks fans is that they really didn't know how to use him and when they did get him involved it was from force feeding the ball that often times threw their offense out of whack.

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#49

It wasn't a great fit for the Seahawks and they lost an offensive lineman that was actually good in the deal.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#50

It wasn't a great fit for the Seahawks and they lost an offensive lineman that was actually good in the deal.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

Yep! And that was widely stated at the time of the trade. NFL pundits were confused. Seahawks weakened their OL and added a guy who couldn't block for a team that is run-based. I think they also gave up a 1st round pick too. We are NOT run based, we are TE chip DL/LB and get deep. That's how we roll.

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