Barfarn
7 years ago

This is just another fail on the part of TT. Why didn't they just throw a few bucks at Spiller? Or better yet, draft another back. Starks is over 30, and Eddie Lacy has his weight, asthma, and injury issues. And to make matters worse, no third running back. I just don't understand the thinking at 1265 Lombardi Avenue sometimes, but I guess I don't need to.

Defense will probably need to carry this one.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



If Spiller is so great why did NO release him without saving a penny? Spiller would not have cost a single penny more to finish the season in NO.

If you’re Spiller do you go to GB who have Lacy and Starks or Seattle that has Christian and Rawls, and Rawls cant stay healthy? How much more $$ would Ted have to pay to entice Spiller to come to GB? Can Spiller even block? No thanks I’ll take Monty.

On draft: there were 2 stud RBs late in 4th and Ted had 2 picks there. I wonder if Ted grabbed Martinez hoping one of the RBs would be left; but Denver and Balt got them, so Ted took Lowry. RBs are a dime a dozen, 4th round picks like Martinex and Lowry are not.
nerdmann
7 years ago

If Spiller is so great why did NO release him without saving a penny? Spiller would not have cost a single penny more to finish the season in NO.

If you’re Spiller do you go to GB who have Lacy and Starks or Seattle that has Christian and Rawls, and Rawls cant stay healthy? How much more $$ would Ted have to pay to entice Spiller to come to GB? Can Spiller even block? No thanks I’ll take Monty.

On draft: there were 2 stud RBs late in 4th and Ted had 2 picks there. I wonder if Ted grabbed Martinez hoping one of the RBs would be left; but Denver and Balt got them, so Ted took Lowry. RBs are a dime a dozen, 4th round picks like Martinex and Lowry are not.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Lowry needs to prove he's that good.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Barfarn
7 years ago

Yes I have. I am not saying they are not strong. I am saying thy do not have the mentality of a RB. One hit no matter how weak and they go down. I have not been impressed with Montgomery's runs have you? 2 carries 0 yards long of 1 yard. Yeah he is big and strong but he hasn't shown he is able to use it against defensive linemen.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



On a WRs not being strong enough to run inside, ya know, not many RBs [See Starks] are also not very good at running inside.

You’re comparing Monty to Lacy; you need to compare him to Starks or Don Jackson or Crockett for that matter.

Everyone says GB kept 7 WRs’, maybe they didn’t. Maybe Monty is or #3 back and had a few plays where he split wide as a RB like Lacy does. I wonder how may reps Monty has been getting at RB this year.

At combine Monty was 5117 221; Starks-6021, 218. 2.4 inches shorter, and 3 pounds heavier. Monty clearly has the body to run inside compared to Starks.

As a senior in HS Monty had 823 yrds in 93 attempts. At Stanford he had 39 carries for 334, but some of those were end-arounds. Unlike many WRs, Monty has had some pre NFL reps at RB.

In 2016, Starks is 24 for 42 and half [12] of Starks carries went for 1 yrd or less.
In 2015 Starks was 148 for 601 and almost half [69] went for 2 yards or less [16 negative runs; 18 runs of zero; 11 runs of 1; 24 runs of 2].

Monty running plays went for 9, 4, 1, 1, -1.

Starks is not a 4 yard, 4 yard, 4 yard guy, he’s a 0, 1, 11 guy. Starks gets most of his big runs untouched and on cut back runs, there’s no reason why Monty cant produce similarly. And if he can learn Starks timing on cut backs, something he’ll get with reps, he’ll be twice the back Starks is.

Also, I think Monty will be a great backfield blocker and obviously 1000x better than Starks coming out of the backfield.

Surely this week Monty has been getting 95% of the first team reps at RB unless they were getting Jackson ready all week and audibled by activating Goodson when Rollins got hurt. These effing GB reporters are so damn busy foisting their worthless opinions into their questions and articles, they fail to ask questions that elicit factual information so they can report on the damn facts, like who the hell is getting reps at RB this week. They all suck.
nerdmann
7 years ago

On a WRs not being strong enough to run inside, ya know, not many RBs [See Starks] are also not very good at running inside.

You’re comparing Monty to Lacy; you need to compare him to Starks or Don Jackson or Crockett for that matter.

Everyone says GB kept 7 WRs’, maybe they didn’t. Maybe Monty is or #3 back and had a few plays where he split wide as a RB like Lacy does. I wonder how may reps Monty has been getting at RB this year.

At combine Monty was 5117 221; Starks-6021, 218. 2.4 inches shorter, and 3 pounds heavier. Monty clearly has the body to run inside compared to Starks.

As a senior in HS Monty had 823 yrds in 93 attempts. At Stanford he had 39 carries for 334, but some of those were end-arounds. Unlike many WRs, Monty has had some pre NFL reps at RB.

In 2016, Starks is 24 for 42 and half [12] of Starks carries went for 1 yrd or less.
In 2015 Starks was 148 for 601 and almost half [69] went for 2 yards or less [16 negative runs; 18 runs of zero; 11 runs of 1; 24 runs of 2].

Monty running plays went for 9, 4, 1, 1, -1.

Starks is not a 4 yard, 4 yard, 4 yard guy, he’s a 0, 1, 11 guy. Starks gets most of his big runs untouched and on cut back runs, there’s no reason why Monty cant produce similarly. And if he can learn Starks timing on cut backs, something he’ll get with reps, he’ll be twice the back Starks is.

Also, I think Monty will be a great backfield blocker and obviously 1000x better than Starks coming out of the backfield.

Surely this week Monty has been getting 95% of the first team reps at RB unless they were getting Jackson ready all week and audibled by activating Goodson when Rollins got hurt. These effing GB reporters are so damn busy foisting their worthless opinions into their questions and articles, they fail to ask questions that elicit factual information so they can report on the damn facts, like who the hell is getting reps at RB this week. They all suck.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



End arounds might be a good addition to our passing game today. Especially with an ex QB like Cobb at the position.

Wouldn't mind seeing some traps and "Roger Craig" type screens either.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
7 years ago
The Packers should use Ty Montgomery on 3rd downs so they don't mess up with their WR rotation. Montgomery has the size and ability to run people over (see last season before injury) and would be a good 3rd down back.

I don't like seeing Randall Cobb back at RB because I think it weakens the WR depth.
UserPostedImage
nerdmann
7 years ago

The Packers should use Ty Montgomery on 3rd downs so they don't mess up with their WR rotation. Montgomery has the size and ability to run people over (see last season before injury) and would be a good 3rd down back.

I don't like seeing Randall Cobb back at RB because I think it weakens the WR depth.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Randall had a neck injury. He doesn't need to be jamming into the pile right now. Is he active this week?

Any money we'll see plenty of Ripkowski running the ball.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DakotaT
7 years ago
Using Ty Montgomery or Randall cobb at half back is absolutely ludicrous. Cobb is a slot receiver and Ty should be used as an undersized tight end like Denver did with Shannon Sharpe.

And fucking Ted should be raiding practice squads for running backs.


UserPostedImage
nerdmann
7 years ago

Using Ty Montgomery or Randall cobb at half back is absolutely ludicrous. Cobb is a slot receiver and Ty should be used as an undersized tight end like Denver did with Shannon Sharpe.

And fucking Ted should be raiding practice squads for running backs.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Don JAckson is a rookie with no TC, so he's probably not gonna be picking up blitzes. Plus he's got speed, which Mike can't stand at the RB position.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
7 years ago

You specifically said he's "not strong enough" but he is plenty strong and built like any other "strong enough" RB but you know absolutely 0 about his "mentality" the fact that he typically plays wr says nothing about his mentality or if he can be successful carrying the football, that's an individual personal trait. The sample size of 5 carries says nothing too. We've seen him carry the football and take on tackles with power as a WR and returner though. Maybe he will work out maybe he won't but at this point we have no clue.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



There is strength (all football players including kickers are strong) and there is the ability to run between the tackles, break a few and carry a couple of DL with you while you gain another 3-5 yards. That's not Montgomery.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
7 years ago

On a WRs not being strong enough to run inside, ya know, not many RBs [See Starks] are also not very good at running inside.

You’re comparing Monty to Lacy; you need to compare him to Starks or Don Jackson or Crockett for that matter.

Everyone says GB kept 7 WRs’, maybe they didn’t. Maybe Monty is or #3 back and had a few plays where he split wide as a RB like Lacy does. I wonder how may reps Monty has been getting at RB this year.

At combine Monty was 5117 221; Starks-6021, 218. 2.4 inches shorter, and 3 pounds heavier. Monty clearly has the body to run inside compared to Starks.

As a senior in HS Monty had 823 yrds in 93 attempts. At Stanford he had 39 carries for 334, but some of those were end-arounds. Unlike many WRs, Monty has had some pre NFL reps at RB.

In 2016, Starks is 24 for 42 and half [12] of Starks carries went for 1 yrd or less.
In 2015 Starks was 148 for 601 and almost half [69] went for 2 yards or less [16 negative runs; 18 runs of zero; 11 runs of 1; 24 runs of 2].

Monty running plays went for 9, 4, 1, 1, -1.

Starks is not a 4 yard, 4 yard, 4 yard guy, he’s a 0, 1, 11 guy. Starks gets most of his big runs untouched and on cut back runs, there’s no reason why Monty cant produce similarly. And if he can learn Starks timing on cut backs, something he’ll get with reps, he’ll be twice the back Starks is.

Also, I think Monty will be a great backfield blocker and obviously 1000x better than Starks coming out of the backfield.

Surely this week Monty has been getting 95% of the first team reps at RB unless they were getting Jackson ready all week and audibled by activating Goodson when Rollins got hurt. These effing GB reporters are so damn busy foisting their worthless opinions into their questions and articles, they fail to ask questions that elicit factual information so they can report on the damn facts, like who the hell is getting reps at RB this week. They all suck.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 




I was not trying to compare him to Lacy. I don’t really want to compare him to any running backs because he is not a RB. Why would I want to compare Montgomery to Crockett? He isn’t even on an NFL team at this time.
Being a little shorter is an advantage for a RB. Lower center of gravity. Better pad level and so on.
HIGH SCHOOL??? You got to be kidding me. By and large HS stats are worthless. Every single player in the NFL was heads and shoulders above everyone on their team and nearly everyone in the HS league. Comparing men among boys is a waste of time. There would be a real problem if they didn’t dominate the competition every single game every single year.
Look I am not saying Monty can’t carry the ball a few times. He may break off a big one. What I am saying is he and Cobb shouldn’t be counted on as the #2 RB behind Lacy.

UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h) : I feel similar about person and product/service.
beast (17-May) : Not sure why a players views reflect on GB... instead of simply on the player
Martha Careful (17-May) : I bet some of us have had 6+ mRNA jabs, a UKR flag on our walls, and still think Fauci has a thread of integrity
Zero2Cool (16-May) : From what I've read, it's all Jets , not us.
CanPackFan (16-May) : Will there ever be a time when Rodgers' whacko views will not reflect on GB? He is the past, thank god.
Zero2Cool (16-May) : Jan 4th gonna be rough with that start time lol
Zero2Cool (16-May) : Packers schedule listed. Boom.
buckeyepackfan (15-May) : Let the leaks begin. Colts @ Packers week 2, Vikings @ Packers week 4
Zero2Cool (14-May) : WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Bills
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Jets and Aaron Rodgers open up on Monday Night Football,
Zero2Cool (13-May) : $170 guaranteed. This might impact Jordan Love
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Lions are signing QB Jared Goff to a four-year, $212 million extension
Zero2Cool (13-May) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line
Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

12-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

11-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.