Deal is not done yet; when it is it'll be 1 yr; 870K; it'll be fully guaranteed if he's on the roster before Game 1, which he will be and then his cap hit will be on 585K.

Note that if the 53 roster spot would go to an UDFA that cap hit would be $435. So Jones is eating into our cap for 150K or less if its not an UDFA cut.

Who gets cut? My guess Harris. Ted is so friggen smart: Instead of leaving the 53 spot open and subjecting Crockett and Harris to waivers at the same time, he cut one to see if he'd make PS; now that he has, it's Harris' turn.

I wouldn't think its Janis; but dont be shocked if it is. On the 2nd play of NO game, he lined up on the wrong side of field. Now I believe these plays were scripted and, if so, how could this guy be so dumb or inattentive to not remember where he is to line-up on the SECOND PLAY.

Signing Jones was a must!

Given the situation at WR this makes sense. It works out well that we could see a veteran sign that is familiar with our offense - and probably at a low cost. IMO Ted made the right decision. Time to get him up to speed and ready for Chicago!

why do you always sound like you have inside info? am i missing something?

I haven't seen the terms spelled out anywhere either. Where do you get this what seems to be "insider" info? Or is it just speculation? Are you just a "poster" like the rest of us? Or are you some kind of a media member or employee of the team?

If you are correct, then there's no reason to condemn the signing on a financial basis. The question is STILL who gets cut. I don't follow your logic about Harris and Crockett. Contrary to what I've read a couple of places, we don't seem to have a roster vacancy now, so how would cutting Harris NOT leave the Packers without both him and Crockett on the 53 anyway? It seems like you're just trying to rationalize the inexplicable keeping of Harris and cutting of Crockett. All I can say is it damn well better not be one of the other WRs we throw away to sign this retread. NO, signing Jones was NOT a must. I will be rooting for him as with any Packer, but I'd much rather we just passed on him.

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Nothing is a "must" the team literally has enough guys to fill the spots, but is it an upgrade is the better question.

Lets assume what Barfarn is saying is true about Janis' lining up on the wrong side of the field. This isn't the first time we've heard about his mental prep/assignments leaving much to be desired. Monty himself admitted there's a learning curve coming up to the NFL. This is a talent rich/experience poor receiver group.

Some people have said this will hinder development but I can't imagine the Packers have less than 5 active on game day, which means in all likelihood 2/3 of Janis, Monty, or White are all playing. Inevitably one of Jones/RC/Adams will get hurt at some point in which case all 3 of the newbies are active. JJ is an inexpensive patch and bridge to the future. IMO, the Packers are a better team for the next 5 months with him on the roster.

I think Barfarn is making an educated guess here. The numbers he's giving are the vet minimum sallary numbers, which has a different application to the cap due to CBA rules (why the cap hit is lower). This is a pretty safe assumption as it's what he signed with the Giants, it's doubtful he would demand/the Packers would pay him more.

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This seems like a personal attack as opposed to a discussion about football; unless your question was hamfistedly worded and you were really asking this question: “Barfarn, You have been on this Jones thing since the very second Jordy dropped in Pitts; You stated Jones would be cut when all the NYG beat writers said he would not and he was leading team in most receiving stats; You said Ted Thompson was gonna sign him when he never resigns these retreads; Just how many GM’s around the league confide in you Barfarn as they make their moves, no one could be so brilliant on their own?”

[blushing-teehee, teehee] Thanks gbguy; but no GMs confide in me; but if they did I wouldn’t tell ya. Oh wait, that sounds like Ted Thompson might have told me to say if he did confide in me; but no it was just a product of my warped sense of humor. LOL [or did Ted Thompson tell me to say that too?]

It would have been easier if you identified a specific fact of which you are concerned instead of using nonsensical hyperbole like "ALWAYS;" perhaps we should explore my comments in the subject post.

“Deal not done yet”: please read the CBA and NFL rules for how a contract is executed and you'll learn it is impossible that Jones' deal is done. Also, if the deal was done, then the Pack would be violating the rules w/ 54 on roster, didn’t think Ted Thompson would do that. And when the deal is signed, do ya think it will be kept a secret for only “us insiders” to know and not tell anyone?

on 870K, 1 year: Do you think there's any other possibility? I discussed this at length in another thread. Okay, they may give him a 20K SB, but why? Would make no sense, it'd be fiscally irresponsible.

“Done this week [as opposed to after this week, LOL]:” I mused some of the variables over this issue in response to a Z2C post in another thread. And Z2C has valid points, he might be right, we’ll see.

“585K cap hit...eating up 150K of available cap:” see the CBA under vet discount [or words of similar import] and then apply remedial math.

"my guess Harris:" doesn't sound there is the slightest implication of inside info; but that would be the beauty of it. Ted Thompson could have told me to get this info out there; but please dont say “Ted told me so.”

“I think the plays are scripted:” ...see above under Harris.

“Don’t be surprised if Janis gets cut:” see above under Harris

“Janis lined up on wrong side:” just WATCH THE GAME. Janis lines up right as they break the huddle, almost immediately Tolzein and Q are waiving Janis to the other side. I guess Tolzein and Q could have been wrong; or maybe it’s just part of a brilliant scripted plan to make Janis look like a moron; then on one play about week 8 all the coaches and players will be yelling at Janis that he lined up in wrong spot and just when the CB lets his guard down...Bamm, hit Janis for a 5 yard slant.

Oh, I did say in another thread I bought a ticket for Jones and mentioned the airline and flight time...LOL. Ted Thompson yelled at me for that one, 1265 is not reimbursing now for the ticket 'cause I broke the "inside info" here and they had to put him on a different flight [Note: For the record and in FULL DISCLOSURE: I was kidding about the ticket and what I just said].

INSIDER INFO: DAMN, COBB WAS PUT ON IR designated to return.

[David Cobb from Tenn that is-haha, Happy Labor Day Fools-thought it'd be too cruel to post that as a new thread topic]

Tex, I’m shocked, the Harris cut idea is nothing more than me stealing your idea. Wasn’t it you who said, weeks ago, with Monty and Cobb we only need 2 RBs since Neal, Crockett and Harris are not worthy of a roster spot?

I think Harris is the 53rd most talented guy on roster as it sits; he’s the guy who should be the first to go; with Crockett on PS and Neal available if one arm- drop passes in game-Harris gets cut and doesn’t make PS, we’ll be okay.

If the roster spot is garnered from the receiver group; there’s 2 choices: Cut Janis or place the real Cobb on IR-DTR. Or if I’m wrong on my evaluation of White; they may cut him thinking he’ll make PS.

My predictions of carrying 9 OL; 11 DBs was based on my player evaluations; Ted Thompson keeps the most talented guys and ya can only dress 46 each week anyways. Taylor, Walker, Goodson and Banjo aren’t going anywhere; unless by trade or injuries exceed the 7 inactives and/or necessitate a person be added to one of the smaller numbered position groups.

Backman actually might be the 53rd most talented and Perillo is the 3rd best TE on this team and something we’d need if injury occurs or Q gets suspended. I forgot how aggressive Ted Thompson can be: I didn’t think Perillo would be claimed; but didn’t think that was a chance Ted Thompson would take. I feared Backman would be claimed, that guy has upside. As usual, Ted Thompson did the right thing, He keeps Kuhn and his leadership, who can play TE in a pinch until Perillo can be activated and we don’t lose Backman, who would have been gone given the claiming of Henry [that surprised me, gotta relook at his play to see what I missed, bet Denver’s just trying to scout us].

So that’s why I see Harris as the best option for cutting when Jones is signed. And note: Abby and Vaughters all safe and Pinkard will be too.

Maybe they know something we don't about Quarless being suspended.

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It was a question not an attack. Your response was uncalled for. Next time I'll do remedial math before asking