Zero2Cool
8 years ago

I think Barfarn is making an educated guess here. The numbers he's giving are the vet minimum sallary numbers, which has a different application to the cap due to CBA rules (why the cap hit is lower). This is a pretty safe assumption as it's what he signed with the Giants, it's doubtful he would demand/the Packers would pay him more.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



Educated guesses is what most of us are doing. The salary numbers are public knowledge. Some people take the time to research it to add to their educated guess and some just go wily nilly. A lot of it is just connecting dots which some are better at than others.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

This seems like a personal attack as opposed to a discussion about football; unless your question was hamfistedly worded and you were really asking this question: “Barfarn, You have been on this Jones thing since the very second Jordy dropped in Pitts; You stated Jones would be cut when all the NYG beat writers said he would not and he was leading team in most receiving stats; You said Ted Thompson was gonna sign him when he never resigns these retreads; Just how many GM’s around the league confide in you Barfarn as they make their moves, no one could be so brilliant on their own?”

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Suggesting an inquiry about one having inside information as a personal attack is in itself offensive. Maybe some are HOPING you have inside information they can read at PackersHome?

As for being "on this Jones thing" 😂 , give me a break, you weren't even the first on this site to make such observations, lol. Predicting this was like predicting the sunrise! 😎

All said and done, I will admit I do feel better that the Packers didn't knee-jerk reaction and lose a draft pick like some (you know you are!) demanded the Packers do and still landed James Jones.

This lineup looks better than like this ...

Randall Cobb
Davante Adams
Ty Montomgery
Jeff Janis
James Jones


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Barfarn
8 years ago

Suggesting an inquiry about one having inside information as a personal attack is in itself offensive.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I agree with that statement. I construed: "why do you always sound like you have inside info?" As more of a loaded or rhetorical question than an inquiry. Now after gbguy's response not so sure I was right about that.

So, gbguy I apologize and a thousands pardons please; next time I'll try to do the remedial math better.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

I agree with that statement. I construed: "why do you always sound like you have inside info?" As more of a loaded or rhetorical question than an inquiry. Now after gbguy's response not so sure I was right about that.

So, gbguy I apologize and a thousands pardons please; next time I'll try to do the remedial math better.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Much like you, we all here just wanna know the latest and greatest about the greatest team, Green Bay Packers. No one here means ill will of any kind. We remove the turds with a flushy flush. 🤨


I was hoping James Jones would sport #85, but figured Richard Rodgers would give up his number (after seeing Jones wore 89 with Raiders and Giants that is) to Jones if asked. Hopefully some money went to a charity of some kind of Rodgers choice.
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beast
8 years ago

I was hoping James Jones would sport #85, but figured Richard Rodgers would give up his number (after seeing Jones wore 89 with Raiders and Giants that is) to Jones if asked. Hopefully some money went to a charity of some kind of Rodgers choice.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Packers.com has Jones listed with #89 and Richard Rodgers listed with #82

Hopefully Rodgers can do like a former #82... and have a great second year just like #82 TE Paul Coffman did! 😎
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DakotaT
8 years ago

Packers.com has Jones listed with #89 and Richard Rodgers listed with #82

Hopefully Rodgers can do like a former #82... and have a great second year just like #82 TE Paul Coffman did! 😎

Originally Posted by: beast 



Had to applaud that just for your retention. I loved Paul Coffman, great Packer.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

Packers.com has Jones listed with #89 and Richard Rodgers listed with #82

Hopefully Rodgers can do like a former #82... and have a great second year just like #82 TE Paul Coffman did! 😎

Originally Posted by: beast 






What's in a number? For Richard Rodgers (and James Jones), not much 


“I just gave it up,” Rodgers replied when asked what the asking price was for the number. “I don’t really have an attachment to No. 89. It’s not a big deal.”


“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
8 years ago
You all love statistics so here is one for you.

James Jones has 196 receptions over the last three seasons and 115 them went for a first down. That's not including his 23 TD's over the same period.

You can let that settle in ...
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DoddPower
8 years ago

You all love statistics so here is one for you.

James Jones has 196 receptions over the last three seasons and 115 them went for a first down. That's not including his 23 TD's over the same period.

You can let that settle in ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Has anyone chimed in with some Giants fans to see how they felt about the release of James Jones?
Porforis
8 years ago

Has anyone chimed in with some Giants fans to see how they felt about the release of James Jones?

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Here's a couple threads. Gist I got was that people were a little bit surprised that he got released, Jones had overall neutral to favorable support from the fanbase. Generally positive as far as getting the ball goes, less positive on what he does afterwards (Had some turnover issues apparently).

http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=519863 
http://giantsfans.net/message_board/index.php/topic,34634.0.html 
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