dfosterf
a month ago
Now that Eric Stokes is no longer a Packer, it might be worthwhile for a reporter to ask him what he thinks about the Packers and Alexander relationship. Not sure he'd be willing to weigh in at this juncture, but it is certainly worth a try. Zero could get a mic and a little Packershome mic sign doo dad and head to Vegas. It's nice this time of year, lol

Scoop Aaron Nagler and launch his new career! (Maybe side gig)
Zero2Cool
a month ago

If we are cutting just to save cap space why isn't Kenny Clark's name brought up? I am sure we could find someone for half the money to get 37 tackles for the year. Cut him we save $10 million with post June 1st cut. Think of this Alexander played in 7 games and had 16 tackles, Clark played in 17 games and had 37 and 8 of those were in 1 game. But we don't hear of any of that talk.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Jaire is not willing to play through injury. If he's not 100%, he's not going out on the field. At least, that's how it's coming off.
Kenny Clark is playing, he's on the field.

So you're paying for something and getting something with Clark. And with Jaire you're paying for something and getting nothing. That's the difference between the two. They would love to have Jaire on the roster, but if he's not going to play, why pay? Are you going to pay $5,000 a month for a car you can't drive or would you get rid of it and cut your losses?
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a month ago

If we are cutting just to save cap space why isn't Kenny Clark's name brought up? I am sure we could find someone for half the money to get 37 tackles for the year. Cut him we save $10 million with post June 1st cut. Think of this Alexander played in 7 games and had 16 tackles, Clark played in 17 games and had 37 and 8 of those were in 1 game. But we don't hear of any of that talk. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

Statistics don't necessarily tell the whole story with Clark IMO..

Did he have a great year, no, but I would argue he did not have a bad year either. IIRC, when I was watching, he was double teamed a lot, dare I say more often than not. Opponents felt they could because whoever was playing the other DT (Wyatt, Wooden, Brooks) was average at best and they felt they could 1 on 1 that person sans risk.

Yes I would like more, but he would be difficult to replace.

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beast
a month ago

If we are cutting just to save cap space why isn't Kenny Clark's name brought up? I am sure we could find someone for half the money to get 37 tackles for the year. Cut him we save $10 million with post June 1st cut. Think of this Alexander played in 7 games and had 16 tackles, Clark played in 17 games and had 37 and 8 of those were in 1 game. But we don't hear of any of that talk.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


Because cutting Clark isn't worth the $1.3 million it would save... based on Clarks contract, there is no reason to even even slightly releasing him until 2026.

Well, technically, I guess they could release him before his roster bonus kicks in and save $10.5 millions, but they would have to release him in the next two or three days, otherwise that roster bonus locks in.


Plus while Clarks quality of play has been slipping for years (since like 2018), he's still eating up a HUGE amount of snaps... like you would probably have to sign two guys to replace the amount of snaps he gets on the field for... he's got the endurance.
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Zero2Cool
a month ago

Plus while Clarks quality of play has been slipping for years (since like 2018), he's still eating up a HUGE amount of snaps... like you would probably have to sign two guys to replace the amount of snaps he gets on the field for... he's got the endurance.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I am still kind of shocked that McDuffie had more defensive snaps than guys like Stokes, Gary, Clark...
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Zero2Cool
a month ago
"Yeah, X (Xavier McKinney) reached out to me, Rashan Gary, Jaire Alexander actually congratulated me, and yeah, those guys so far." - Nate Hobbs

That's interesting to me. And makes me think Packers might keep Jaire.

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beast
a month ago

I am still kind of shocked that McDuffie had more defensive snaps than guys like Stokes, Gary, Clark...
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Stokes got benched for a little while and the DL rotates a lot. But yes, Cooper was the #2 to Walkers #1 most of the season, and for some reason they kept the physical talented Cooper on the bench most of the year, I'm not sure if he was still mentally learning, or what kept him on the bench.

But notice Clark had 685, where the next DT had only 440, and I think there was a good jump between #2 and #3.
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dhazer
a month ago
BTW guys I wasn't saying we should release Clark was just using him as an example of someone with a huge contract that could be cut to save money. I still think Jaire is worth the extra money even if for only 7 games compared to just releasing him. Time for coaches and players to bury the feelings and do whats best for business.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
Zero2Cool
a month ago

BTW guys I wasn't saying we should release Clark was just using him as an example of someone with a huge contract that could be cut to save money. I still think Jaire is worth the extra money even if for only 7 games compared to just releasing him. Time for coaches and players to bury the feelings and do whats best for business.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


Understood, however, you were saying if the goal was to recover salary cap space ... and I was pointing out Clark is getting on the field, Alexander is not.

Jaire reached out to the new CB already, I think that's a good sign.
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dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
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Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
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