I find it extremely difficult to believe that the majority of Native Americans have found all the college and professional franchise nicknames offensive.
Originally Posted by: wpr
And no one has made that claim, as clearly the Florida State nickname is not offensive, so therefore no one has claimed it was all mascots.
And yes the vocal minority, rallied the majority of those that care enough to speak up. Most probably don't care enough one way or another to speak up.
My complaint is it has been uneven in its application. All teams should have the nicknames removed or none of them.
Originally Posted by: wpr
Yeah life isn't fair and we shouldn't expect it to be.
Just because something gets murdered in one state, doesn't mean all the other states should also murder something.
Fact and Circumstances always matter.
Like for some reason there is this stupidity that all State should change their flags to make them more recognizable using the simple flag rules...
Whomever is pushing that should just shut up... or at minimum, admit the truth, they want to change stuff just to change stuff.
Talking about how it'll start a new great respectful tradition, while they're clearly not respecting the current tradition of the current flag.
Florida State found a loophole through the bullshit, we should be happy for them, and anyone else that found a loophole through the bullshit.
Not they should suffer because we are suffering.
The only difference was money.
Originally Posted by: wpr
No, that's not what you said earlier. You said one group survived and gave their approval, while the other group disappeared and did not give their approval.
Approval and Consent is the difference.
You might see it as only money as you haven't seen the time and efforts they put into it, but there is more than just money.
As a sovereign tribe, the Seminole Tribe of Florida works closely with FSU to ensure that the use of the Seminole name and iconography are used with consistency to the Tribe’s values. Additionally, we collaborate on various issues of mutual interest and representatives of the Tribe consistently serve as dignitaries at various university functions.
And yes, to your point, other schools might put in more than just money. But they didn't get the consent.