umair_010
2 months ago
Wow what a game. Love looked amazing
Zero2Cool
2 months ago

I'm a Homer. I'm taking Packers. I don't want a glimmer of happy if they lose and I picked the enemy. I'm weak, lol.

Chiefs should win this game, but if Packers don't beat themselves, I wouldn't be surprised if they win.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


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beast
2 months ago
Well, I was sure wrong about this one 😁
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2 months ago
Adam Teicher wrote:

Kansas City Chiefs bemoan final moments of loss in Green Bay

Adam Teicher, ESPN Staff Writer

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- The Kansas City Chiefs saw the end of Sunday night's game devolve into chaos, with the final 1:09 featuring an unnecessary roughness penalty, a fumble recovery that was overturned, an ejection and a controversial pass interference non-call.

When it was all said and done, Kansas City -- needing a touchdown and a 2-point conversion to force overtime -- instead saw Patrick Mahomes' pass into the end zone on the final play knocked away, as the Green Bay Packers held on for a 27-19 win.

The Chiefs, hoping to tie the Baltimore Ravens and Miami Dolphins for the best record in the AFC, instead fell to 8-4 following their third loss in five outings.

In what was a talking point in the Chiefs locker room afterward, officials elected not to throw a flag for interference as Packers defensive back Carrington Valentine appeared to be draped over Chiefs wide receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling on a deep pass from Mahomes on a first-and-10 from the 50-yard line. Had the penalty been called, it would have put the Chiefs inside the Green Bay 10-yard line with 14 seconds remaining.


Valdes-Scantling said after the game he asked the official why there was no penalty.

"He didn't even acknowledge me," Valdes-Scantling said.

Asked whether it was a penalty, Valdes-Scantling replied, "I was trying to get the ball and ended up on the ground. I don't know what they saw, but I tried to catch it and didn't have an opportunity."

Mahomes would eventually get his team into Packers territory, but the Chiefs stalled out at the Green Bay 33, with Mahomes' final four pass attempts all landing incomplete.

"Obviously, the guy was probably a little early, but at the end of the game, they're letting guys play," Mahomes said about no penalty being called on the pass to Valdes-Scantling. "I'm kind of about that. I rather you let the guys play and let the guys win on the field, but it's hard.

"I can't be wanting a flag. I have to try to go out there and win the game myself and with the rest of my teammates."

Referee Brad Allen, asked about the play after the game, said in a pool report that "on every play where there may or may not be pass interference, either offensive or defensive, the covering official has to rule whether contact materially restricts the receiver. And in this case, the covering officials were in good position and ruled that there was no material restriction that rose to the level of defensive pass interference."

Earlier on the drive, Chiefs running back Isiah Pacheco was ejected from the game and penalized 15 valuable yards for taking a swing at a Packers player.

"You can't do that," Chiefs coach Andy Reid said afterward. "You have to stay composed."

Mahomes acknowledged the penalty hurt the Chiefs but said he appreciated Pacheco's energy.

"I love the fire from [Pacheco]," Mahomes said. "That gets us going as an offense. Obviously, you got a flag in this situation, but I mean we were already in a bad situation, so I mean I never want to take the passion away from a guy. He'll learn from it. I'm sure he won't make that mistake again, but that's the stuff that we need on this team in order to have the success that we want to have."

The Chiefs' chaotic final drive began with Green Bay defensive back Jonathan Owens being penalized for hitting Mahomes as he was going out of bounds on a 10-yard run, a personal foul that put the ball at Green Bay's 45-yard line.

"In my mind, I just wanted to hit him before he went out of bounds to try and knock him back to keep the clock rolling," Owens said. "It was under a minute, I believe, so just keep the clock running, just try to make a team play. If you can get a legal hit on a quarterback, take it every chance you get.

"I knew it was legal."

Kansas City wideout Rashee Rice then appeared to fumble, with Green Bay's Corey Ballentine returning it 68 yards for what would have been a game-sealing touchdown. But replay showed that Rice was down before the ball came loose, so the Chiefs retained possession.

Clearly the MVS play was PI. However:
- Clearly, the hit on Mahomes was inbounds and legal,
AND MORE IMPORTANT THE ARTICLE DID NOT MENTION
- MVS was INBOUNDS on the completion to the near sideline, which cost the Packers at least 20 seconds


Winners wins, losers gripe.
Go Packers!!!!
beast
2 months ago

Adam Teicher wrote: Clearly the MVS play was PI. However:
- Clearly, the hit on Mahomes was inbounds and legal,
AND MORE IMPORTANT THE ARTICLE DID NOT MENTION
- MVS was INBOUNDS on the completion to the near sideline, which cost the Packers at least 20 seconds


Winners wins, losers gripe.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


I really liked Mahomes answers

Also the NFL has some good BS answers for the refs. I mean, the answer makes sense... but at the same point, I'm pretty sure they called PI earlier in the game on a more minor item and when the ball was uncatchable even if the WR wasn't touched, which I would say made the WR touching non-materially, at the very least that earlier play should of been defensive holding, not defensive pass inference.


And as for the MVS non-call, as I said after the play, the DB absolutely played the ball... after jumping on MVS back, but he got his hands up off of MVS and onto the ball, so he played the ball.

While the WR has the right to their space, the DB has the right to his own, and he went over MVS, and gravity took him down on MVS but his hands got up and touched the ball.

It's like two players have the right and ability to accidentally collide and not be at pass interference, just they were trying to get in the same spot.
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beast
2 months ago


Green Bay Packers ( 5 - 6 )
Points For = 21.0 (17th)
Points Against = 20.4 (10th)

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



After so many trash talk the defense, the Packers now have a top 10 defense (despite a lot of injuries) and few if anyone is saying anything?

Defense has been getting the job done!

And Packers current strength of schedule is 0.528, though that's about to take a nose dive as they have a lot of weak record opponents coming up.
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go.pack.go.
2 months ago
I have never seen a non-called penalty be such a damn talking point in the media for so long after a game. It’s like everyone is saying “the Packers won, BUT”…anyone who watched the game pretty much knows the Packers were the better team Sunday night. And should know that there were bad calls both ways. Also- even if they did throw the flag, the Chiefs still had to get into the end zone and convert a 2pt conversion (which the Packers proved to be able to stop them both in the red zone multiple times and also stop a 2pt attempt earlier in the game). They’re giving Mahommes the Brady treatment .


Also the NFL has some good BS answers for the refs. I mean, the answer makes sense... but at the same point, I'm pretty sure they called PI earlier in the game on a more minor item and when the ball was uncatchable even if the WR wasn't touched, which I would say made the WR touching non-materially, at the very least that earlier play should of been defensive holding, not defensive pass inference.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I agree this play should not have been a PI, but it wouldn’t be called a hold either. Defensive holding is called before the ball is in the air. Once it’s in the air, anything like that is automatically PI.
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After so many trash talk the defense, the Packers now have a top 10 defense (despite a lot of injuries) and few if anyone is saying anything?

Defense has been getting the job done!

And Packers current strength of schedule is 0.528, though that's about to take a nose dive as they have a lot of weak record opponents coming up.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Even after the win I heard people still hating on Barry. Complaining about a single play here or there.
I was at a game earlier this year and the guy next to me was F'n Barry this and that. Nothing about the players doing a poor job. It's all Barry's fault. I just stared at him.
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umair_010
2 months ago
Gotta give credit where it is due. He turned things around. This D is loaded with talent so he really had no excuse.
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beast (18-Feb) : I'm pretty sure those cap hits are going to hit no matter what, if the players are released, re-sign, whatever, the cap hits are earned
Martha Careful (18-Feb) : DH, 10.4 I agree. Z2C IIRC they could sign later, but lose ability to adjust void years/dead cap
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : They could release before Monday. Then sign later, yea?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Doesn't meant they won't be on Packers in 2024 does it?
dhazer (18-Feb) : @martha That's why said I guess we will know about Savage because if no extension we get a $5 million cap hit for him
Martha Careful (17-Feb) : Per Packers cap expert Ken Ingalls, Nixon, Savage, and Nijman have void provisions that will trigger on Feb. 19.
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Zero2Cool (16-Feb) : How's that work? They can't sign him via free agency?
dhazer (16-Feb) : I am guessing we will know if they are bringing Savage back by Monday, if not extended his cap hit for void years is almost $6 million
Martha Careful (15-Feb) : Kudos to them for the quick hook.
Martha Careful (15-Feb) : Wilks looked clueless and frozen in the 4th Q and OT. I think Shanahan was telling him to dial up pressure and he was in capable.
Mucky Tundra (15-Feb) : *them
Mucky Tundra (15-Feb) : And it looks like San Fran missed out on all the good coordinators from the hiring cycle. I will now play the worlds smallest violin for the
Zero2Cool (15-Feb) : 49ers fire D-coordinator Steve Wilks after one season
packerfanoutwest (14-Feb) : So where were thet for the Championship games?
Martha Careful (13-Feb) : I think they were a reaction to prevent another incident like the Philly game earlier where an asst. coach got involved w/ an opp. playerg
packerfanoutwest (13-Feb) : what's up with the Ninja sideline officials?
umair_010 (12-Feb) : Watching mahomes roll on the floor after winning looked so fake and phoney. I can’t be the only one
Mucky Tundra (12-Feb) : The Chicago Bears are now on the clock
Mucky Tundra (12-Feb) : Blocked XP didnt help either
Mucky Tundra (12-Feb) : Taylor Swift starts to follow the Chiefs and watches a Super Bowl win her 1st year. Other fanbases watch enviously
Mucky Tundra (12-Feb) : San Fran lost this game in the 1st quarter when they piled up yards but didnt score
buckeyepackfan (12-Feb) : lol
buckeyepackfan (12-Feb) : Don't know how Vegas does it. 46.5 over/under I took the under
Martha Careful (12-Feb) : they had a chance to win it. Second, and five on the 5 yard line running left successfully and chose to run, right
Mucky Tundra (12-Feb) : Sucks to suck San Fran
Mucky Tundra (12-Feb) : Winner winner chicken dinner!
TheKanataThrilla (12-Feb) : Calling TD to Kelce...the perfect NFL marketing ending
TheKanataThrilla (12-Feb) : MVS was a dumb play there
Mucky Tundra (12-Feb) : Ack what was that?
Mucky Tundra (12-Feb) : Oh is it already down to this?
Mucky Tundra (12-Feb) : Between the McCaffrey and Juszyzck plays I thought they were cooked
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