beast
a year ago

I'm also just sour on Packers OL and DL. And I believe it doesn't matter how good your WR or RB or CB's are if your line is poopoo. Fortify those lines and I think it turns average players producing like good players. And good players like great players.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Agreed, linemen give or take time and space and do exactly like you said, and linemen are the issue, especially with both schemes putting extra pressure on the linemen without the extra talent being there.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Tanking, it is not the answer. Trying hard to see which of your roster can really contribute when and if you get to a championship level caliber team is the key and should be the goal for the balance of the season.
I think you are changing Love. for crying out loud. This guy has no better receivers. He doesn’t know if anybody is going to be in the right place on any plate. Give the kid a break.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


Yes. I am changing on Jordan Love.
Three years to learn this offense.
Three years to learn how to be a pro by Aaron Rodgers.
He's making poor decisions with the ball in his first year ad starter.
He's not putting the ball in good spots.
He's waiting for guys to be open before he throws it to them.
He's underthrowing guys too consistently.

A guy in his fourth year in same offense shouldn't be having these struggles as consistently as he has.

Do I want him to be the guy? Hell yes.
Have I lost confidence from weeks four through today? Yes.
Am I canning him? Nope. I've got nine games to view and see if he gets my hopes back up.
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bboystyle
a year ago

Tanking, it is not the answer. Trying hard to see which of your roster can really contribute when and if you get to a championship level caliber team is the key and should be the goal for the balance of the season.
I think you are changing Love. for crying out loud. This guy has no better receivers. He doesn’t know if anybody is going to be in the right place on any plate. Give the kid a break.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


I supported him since day one and wanted Rodgers out for him because I thought Rodgers held the ball too much looking for one player or the big play ever since the 2021 season. I thought Jordan would do good in the "genius" offensive scheme of MLF that would have him actually progress through his reads instead of keying on one player(rodgers). Because Rodgers could find and throw our guys open on a quick slant or short route but rather go for the big play instead. But after seeing him for 8 weeks, he cant even throw to an open WR 30 yards down the field. This is not a rookie or lack of weapons issue. This is an issue he has had all season long. It dont matter if he has elite players around him if he cant even throw to an open WR for a TD. Now ill give him the benefit of the doubt being its his FIRST time as a full starter. I dont mind seeing what he bring next season but thats it. After that, if he dont improve regardless how bad MLF is (MLF isnt the reason he cant throw accurately down field) then we need to move on. Gute should seriously think about snagging a QB this up coming draft just in case.

just my two cents
porky88
a year ago

I think Harrison may be that could.

Nevertheless, your points are well taken, perhaps by placing my option #3 ahead of 1 and 2, we would be in agreement.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



I get Larry Fitzgerald vibes from watching Marvin Harrison Jr. If you think he's that guy, then you don't pass on him.

With that said, he's a top 5 pick in my view. He'll probably go top 3.

As bad as the Packers have been, I'm not sure they'll finish worst than the Giants, Cardinals, Bears, and Panthers.

Zero2Cool
a year ago
I can't find the thread, but recently I was talking about how Nick Collins learned how to watch film through Charles Woodson. Similar thing was Rasul Douglas helped Jaire Alexander (not intentionally) by watching film differently than Jaire had before.

This is said recently by Carrington Valentine. And this is what I mean by veterans help rookies. And it's what we lack in the WR and TE room.
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