Aaron Rodgers: If there's a trade opportunity, I expect Packers to be in the...

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

Sunday's loss to the Jets dropped the Packers to 3-3 and heightened concerns that the team's offense is not coming together as hoped this season. Green Bay managed one touchdown in the 27-10 loss and wide receivers caught just 10 of the 28 completed passes thrown by Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love over the course [
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Ask the Panthers what they want for their RG, #2 DT and WR they sent to the locker room... trade Lowry and a draft pick and we'll have enough cap room since Lowry contract more than covers maybe double the DT and WR contract.

RG Austin Corbett
DT Matt Ioannidis
WR Robbie Anderson

And/OR... have Aaron Rodgers call up JC Tretter and talk him into coming out of retirement (which he only retired because he felt like he was being blackballed due to his union duties and he was preparing to play and has both played with Rodgers in the old system but also played in the wide zone system with the Browns.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

2 years ago

As I posted on Tweeter.

Robbie Anderson? The guy who got into a shouting match with his position coach? Subsequently getting him sent to the locker? Folks want to add THAT guy? Do we not have enough issues??

But, doesn't matter because Cardinals have traded for Panthers WR Robbie Anderson.

nerdmann
Premier Member

2 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

We need someone who can get deep, clear out that safety so guys can get open underneath. Sammy and Christian are out right now. Yesterday, we didn't have enough protection to wait 2 seconds for guys to get deep.

Anderson would have filled a need though, and would have presumably been affordable.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

2 years ago

Ty Fryfogle . 4.53. Not a speed guy. UDFA.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

2 years ago

We need someone who can get deep, clear out that safety so guys can get open underneath.

I've seen stuff on Tweeter about getting a WR. Why? Why do we continue to ignore the main issue of the offense and that is the OL? Do we watch the games or just look at box scores? Rodgers cannot hit the guys who are open because he's being crushed. And when he does have time, he's throwing behind the guy, or at the guys feet, or just underthrowing them.

Adding another damn WR is not a freaking solution to the problem. The OL needs to improve. If that's by moving players to their NATURAL positions, or adding new bodies or better bodies. The OL plays better, then the QB can play better and maybe the offense will be better.

I should clarify, the OL pass protection because running the ball they've had a lot more success than pass protection.

So, let's stop focusing on "new shiny object" and realize the game is WON and LOST in the trenches. If you wanna get sexy, you gotta get dirty!!!

nerdmann
Premier Member

2 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Ts just need to shake the rust off. They'll settle in. Might move Nijman to RT, he played there in college.

Ol doesn't suck in all these games. Depends on the competition.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

2 years ago

Ts just need to shake the rust off. They'll settle in. Might move Nijman to RT, he played there in college.

Ol doesn't suck in all these games. Depends on the competition.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Rust? We took our LG coming off ACL over to the RT. He should be at LG. Let him master his natural position whiling knocking off that rust instead asking him to learn a new position on the other side of the OL. This isn't Madden and people need to comprehend this before pining for a damn WR every second.

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

So, let's stop focusing on "new shiny object" and realize the game is WON and LOST in the trenches. If you wanna get sexy, you gotta get dirty!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Um, 2 of the 3 suggested players were interior linemen that clearly play in the trenches. The WR was just a bonus because I thought he might be cheap because their coaches want him gone... and Cobbs injury.

Ts just need to shake the rust off. They'll settle in. Might move Nijman to RT, he played there in college.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

He hasn't been in college in a while, and he sucked in college ... he's actually better in the pros, as he had zero technic in college... and teams that usually draft for upside even skipped him.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

You keep complaining about this but it has one huge hole in the logic...

If we keep Bakhtiari, Nijman, Jenkins, Runyan, Tom, Rhyan, Myers, Hanson, Walker all on theory natural left side or center positions...

Then whom is going to play the right side? Just Newman?

I get your point, and it's not a bad point... but you haven't addressed the issue of whom plays the right side of you keep everyone at their natural position.

Someone had to move, and they tried putting their best players at the OTs, which lots of other teams have done as well.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

2 years ago

I get your point, and it's not a bad point... but you haven't addressed the issue of whom plays the right side of you keep everyone at their natural position.

Originally Posted by: beast

Yes, I have, about half dozen times. I'll say it again. Put whomever at RT then use 89 to help. 89 is a great blocking TE, right? So even if we a dirtbag schmuck at RT, use the TE to help. This is not a new tactic. This is not revolutionary. It has been done before for right-handed QB's.

Yes, this means probably more single-back sets and no more having 28 and 33 on the field until the RT (WHO EVER THE HELL YOU WANT) gets good enough to not need the TE help.

I'll put it down, again. I'll just COPY PASTE.

69 - 74 - 71 - 76 - warm body + 89

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

2 years ago

#10

If we keep Bakhtiari, Nijman, Jenkins, Runyan, Tom, Rhyan, Myers, Hanson, Walker all on theory natural left side or center positions...

Originally Posted by: beast

Gonna respond to this one separately. I am of the belief that pairing 69 with 74 will solidify that left side. I think it will help 74 shake off "rust" or whatever excuse we're using for his poor play. Also, if 69 gets dinged up, I am of the belief kicking from LG to LT is less of an adjustment than kicking LG to RT.

Can Yosh Nijman play RT?
Can Rasheed Walker play RT?
Can Zach Tom play RT?
Maybe put Luke Tenuta can play RT? He did in college and he's 6'9" and over 320lbs. He should at least get in the way. 🤷‍♂️

Shit, I don't know. But we know Jenkins is a stud at LG. Hell, maybe we just freaking plug Marcedes Lewis at RT.

I do not care! I just do not want Jenkins, our stud LG, at RT any freaking more.

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