beast
4 years ago

Calling someone a bust after one year is... A busted opinion.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Come on now Zero, if you don't get so many snaps as a 1st round rookie, then your just hot garbage bust, just ask Aaron Rodgers, totally a waste of 1st round pick, he did even play much his second or third year, what trash was he!

Could have has plug and players like OG Logan Mankins, but we had to go for less vaule and select a development player, Thompson was such an idiot, selecting a guy with high potential but clearly needed develop time....

Thompson next player wasn't much better, Nick Collins, he got on the feild and he struggled and by year 3 fans were demanding for him to bench for Rouse, because Rouse could catch INTs, but Collins couldn't (even though Rouse gave up a TD for every INT he caught)

And likewise Gute followed with Savage....

These guys have no idea what they're doing.... if they're not an all pro rookie, they suck!

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4 years ago
German Philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 – 1860) famously observed that “all truth passes through three stages: first, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
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beast
4 years ago
So does a lot of other bullshit....look at the flat earth crap.... ridiculed; violently opposed; and more in recent years accepted as self-evident.”

Same with Alex Jones and million of other conspiracy theories.... and both sides of politics...

So that doesn't mean it's truth at all, as it equally be a piece of crap...
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gbguy20
4 years ago
I feel like you dang near just said the earth is flat.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Come on now Zero, if you don't get so many snaps as a 1st round rookie, then your just hot garbage bust, just ask Aaron Rodgers, totally a waste of 1st round pick, he did even play much his second or third year, what trash was he!

Could have has plug and players like OG Logan Mankins, but we had to go for less vaule and select a development player, Thompson was such an idiot, selecting a guy with high potential but clearly needed develop time....

Thompson next player wasn't much better, Nick Collins, he got on the feild and he struggled and by year 3 fans were demanding for him to bench for Rouse, because Rouse could catch INTs, but Collins couldn't (even though Rouse gave up a TD for every INT he caught)

And likewise Gute followed with Savage....

These guys have no idea what they're doing.... if they're not an all pro rookie, they suck!

Originally Posted by: beast 



It's all about expectations. People who think draft picks are supposed to be rock stars as rookies simply do not understand what the draft is about. These kids need to be developed at the professional level. Hell, Patrick Mahomes didn't do shit his rookie year and I don't remember anyone calling him a bust.


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4 years ago
I think he would suck at ILB, but what about putting on 20 more pound and try him inside?
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

I think he would suck at ILB, but what about putting on 20 more pound and try him inside?

Originally Posted by: KRK 



I agree, he probably would not succeed at ILB. Tacking on 20lbs of muscle and playing inside would be interesting. Is he good with his hands?
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go.pack.go.
4 years ago

He's a bust

Originally Posted by: KRK 



I wouldn’t say he’s a bust yet. As of right now, I would call it a stupid draft pick though. Added two players at the same position in free agency already, why draft that position with such a high pick?
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warhawk
4 years ago

I agree, he probably would not succeed at ILB. Tacking on 20lbs of muscle and playing inside would be interesting. Is he good with his hands?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I think they have to give him another year at the position he was drafted to play since it was accepted that he would need time to develop. The only thing that makes any sense about this pick is after shedding Clay and Nick and bringing in the Smith's is allowed Gary some time to develop. The mystery of this pick is they really didn't need Gary or to gamble at that position at all. Gute made the moves that could have allowed them to get a developmental player later in the draft.

I'm not sure Gary is even all that bad considering he was playing behind guys who were having career years. Did he not play more because he was such a liability or because your going to play the best players most of the time? It's not like the position Sternberger was in who got more and more PT and got better and better. After all, TE was opposite on the scale of productivity vs OLB throughout the year allowing a bit more opportunity for him. He, in fact, is my year 2 player candidate that makes the biggest leap.
Gary is going to have to claw and scratch his way to more playing time and that's not a bad thing and I'm not ready to say he's not up to it just yet. As mentioned in other posts guys like Collins, Arod, and Adams, took time to realize and meet their potential. What attributes do they all have in common? They were all naturally gifted athletes that just kept working until their time came. Gary is as naturally gifted as they come. From all accounts Gary is not afraid to work so lets just give this a little more time before kicking the guy to the curb.










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4 years ago
The last 2 posts in this thread are spot on.
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