Tony Mandarich cites steroids, painkillers for his draft bust status

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

Or maybe because ya just weren't that good?

Tony Mandarich is included on any list of the biggest draft busts in NFL history, and he says his story is a cautionary tale not for NFL scouts who struggle to identify the top prospects coming out of college, but for NFL players who struggle with substance abuse. Mandarich said in a long interview with [more]

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KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

A bust indeed.

But give the guy credit for coming back and playing effectively for the Colts. The staff in Green Bay at the time was too blind to recognize he could be a serviceable guard even though he wasn’t a tackle.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Cheesey
Preferred Member

5 years ago

We COULD have had Barry Sanders!!!!
Waaaaaaaah!!!!!![what]
Instead we got a bust.....and the kind of bust you WANT to see.😂

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

I still don't see how Packers get blamed. The world was certain he'd be a All-Pro safe pick for a decade. It just goes to show Mandrich fooled everyone. I'm a huge Barry Sanders fan and sure it'd have been nice to watch him 16 times a year, but ... I am glad he went to the Lions and not Packers. Barry would have extended Lindy Infante career and we would most likely not have landed Ron Wolf, Mike Holgrem and Brett Favre. Then again, maybe a better trio would have been had? Maybe Barry extends Infante's career through 1995 and we hire Bill Belichick in 1996? 😉

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

5 years ago

I still don't see how Packers get blamed. The world was certain he'd be a All-Pro safe pick for a decade. It just goes to show Mandrich fooled everyone.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Coulda swore I read a quote once from Jimmy Johnson saying that if GB was #1 and drafted Aikman and Dallas had #2 they would have jumped all over Mandarich

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

5 years ago

We COULD have had Barry Sanders!!!!
Waaaaaaaah!!!!!![what]
Instead we got a bust.....and the kind of bust you WANT to see.😂

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

1.Aikman
2. Mandarich
3. Barry Sanders
4. Derrick Thomas
5. Deon Sanders

Which one of those guys IS NOT in the HOF?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

1.Aikman
2. Mandarich
3. Barry Sanders
4. Derrick Thomas
5. Dion Sanders

Which one of those guys IS NOT in the HOF?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Actually, two.

#2 and #5 are not int he Hall of Fame. 😝

Rockmolder
Honored Member

5 years ago

Coulda swore I read a quote once from Jimmy Johnson saying that if GB was #1 and drafted Aikman and Dallas had #2 they would have jumped all over Mandarich

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

I read some stuff that it wasn't a question for any team in the league... He was just the best O-line prospect anyone had ever seen work out, in addition to having 1st round tape (albeit mid-first round).

Not like JaMarcus Russell, where there were red flags before the draft, but just unanimous praise.

I don't think this'd happen today. I mean, looking back at it, it's rather obvious that work-out was steroid-aided. He'd be kicked off his college team before even making it to the Combine.

nerdmann
Premier Member

5 years ago

He also drank stagnant pond water while hunting in the UP. Got amoebas.

Alcoholism was a big issue too, iirc.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

5 years ago

#10

I remember reading an article in the MJS that every team in the League, except one, would have drafted him number 2 behind Aikman. The one team that wouldn't have taken him at 2 would have taken him number 1. That team was Minnesota, wish that had worked out for them!!!

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

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