Cheesey
6 years ago
This time of year is slow. So if there is no real “news”, people will make things up,
EXAMPLE : the new coach says “I haven’t really been able to get ahold of Aaron” (as it’s the off season, and the players have to get things done that they don’t have time to do during the season) and it gets turned into “oh my god!!! Aaron is avoiding the new coach!!! He already HATES the guy! Our season is DOOMED already!!!”
See how easy that was???
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

This time of year is slow. So if there is no real “news”, people will make things up,
EXAMPLE : the new coach says “I haven’t really been able to get ahold of Aaron” (as it’s the off season, and the players have to get things done that they don’t have time to do during the season) and it gets turned into “oh my god!!! Aaron is avoiding the new coach!!! He already HATES the guy! Our season is DOOMED already!!!”
See how easy that was???

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Yeah, I have no interest in changing his opinion, I am just looking for the whole story, not the headline before I go off my rails. It's so easy for someone to say Murphy demands Rodgers "embrace change"!!! Not that any one is speculating that, but it looks bad. Maybe the question was "Do you think Rodgers needs to embrace change?" and he responded back "Aaron needs to embrace change, just like all of us".

I just don't know what was asked, or the full response so to go off my rails on someone? I just can't do that.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

I just cannot understand where any of this is coming from. It's like you want him to say "no comment" every time he's asked a question. Do you even know what question he was responding to? Do you know the full text?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'm not going to get in a big argument about this.

He can defer questions about players to Gute and Lefluer.

Yes he should "no comment".

He is the CEO, which in Green Bay is equivelant to the owner, he hired Gute, who hired Lefluer.

Go back to being CEO and stay out of their business of putting the team together.

Aaron Rodgers knows what he has to do.

What he doesn't need is the CEO telling the world the obvious,

Bullshit statements like that only add fuel to the fire that Aaron is still disgruntled and he is going to come to camp with his own agenda.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

I haven't heard it on any podcast. If you're talking about podcasts from like totalpackers or cheeseheadtv, those are more for entertainment, not reporting the news.

Also, if its a violation, why can't you go with the thinking that Aaron knew it was a violation and thus ignored the calls? Why do you gotta take the asshole route about it?

That said, I don't think it's a violation because everyone knows that Matt and Aaron have spoke and Brian has spoken with Aaron. Hell, they have a players committee that was talking with management.


But hey, let's just stick with the narrative of blasting the QB because that's so culture.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I just go with the evidence. I prefer not to defend the superstar QB at all costs.

Still. I regard it as an open question to what degree Aaron is douchebagging the team. Just a little bit more evidence to weigh.

If Murphy is telling Aaron to get down with Le Fleur, I regard that as a good sign.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I just go with the evidence. I prefer not to defend the superstar QB at all costs.

Still. I regard it as an open question to what degree Aaron is douchebagging the team. Just a little bit more evidence to weigh.

If Murphy is telling Aaron to get down with Le Fleur, I regard that as a good sign.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He is kind of a douche bag to everyone else, so he probably is douchebagging the team too.




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Cheesey
6 years ago
If he goes “no comment” then people will make up what they THINK that means. And it will be “he’s a douche! Too big to answer the question! There MUST be some big thing going on, must be infighting behind the scenes! Our season is DOOMED!!!”
😂
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earthquake
6 years ago

I just go with the evidence. I prefer not to defend the superstar QB at all costs.

Still. I regard it as an open question to what degree Aaron is douchebagging the team. Just a little bit more evidence to weigh.

If Murphy is telling Aaron to get down with Le Fleur, I regard that as a good sign.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You keep using that word but I'm pretty sure you don't know what it means.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
If it's in all these podcasts then why isn't there anything written about it? It's not like they have anything else to write about. I've never once read that Matt has been trying to get a hold of Aaron, and I have never once read that Aaron gas been ignoring Matt's attempts to speak with him. Yet, here it is spewed about as if its fact.
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steveishere
6 years ago
I'd like to see a link to which specific podcasts this was mentioned on because I haven't heard anything about it.
nerdmann
6 years ago

I'd like to see a link to which specific podcasts this was mentioned on because I haven't heard anything about it.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



They spoke of it quite a bit on Bill Michaels iirc
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