Porforis
6 years ago

Did anyone else hear the pregame show when they talked about playing defense against the Packers? It was something like this offense is so easy to defense because it's the same offense they been running since 1995 with Brett Favre. Now when former player/ analyst can see this i am sure a DC can really see it.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



I disagree with this but it's the same offense we've been running for at LEAST 8 years now. All the tricks that used to catch defenses don't work anymore. Remember when we'd get 2+ free plays a game by drawing people offsides? We're lucky to get one every fourth game the last few years. Defenses know what the Packers are going to do 90% of the time and Rodgers isn't good enough anymore to still beat defenses consistently when they know what's coming.
nerdmann
6 years ago

Besides Matt Flynn (who went on to do not much of anything elsewhere), how has that worked out for the Packers? Kizer, Hundley, Callahan, Harrell, Nall, Tolzien, Wallance, Young, and whoever else I've forgotten have been at best not bad enough to single-handedly lose the game and at worse completely put the Packers out of any contention to be competitive. This is less of a "Rodgers is a God!" comment and more of a "Next man up sounds like a pretty horrible idea to me and history backs that up".

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Because Rodgers is playing so well right now?

Face it, Kizer was a higher selection than any of those other guys for a reason. And nothing will help him more than to get some freakin live reps. You cannot let your team leader defy the coach. That's how you get guys going rogue like Ty Montgomery.

That's how you get guys looking right at your coach and ignoring him, walking away.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Porforis
6 years ago

Because Rodgers is playing so well right now?

Face it, Kizer was a higher selection than any of those other guys for a reason. And nothing will help him more than to get some freakin live reps.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If typing that out doesn't make you realize how ludicrous that sounds then I'm not sure anybody can help you. Compared to what his raw talent says he should be capable? Yes Rodgers is bombing this season. He's middle of the pack overall. You mean to tell me that Brett freaking Kizer is a top-15 QB if he gets the reps? Yeah, maybe if the entire offensive system is re-tooled around him and you have a year or two. You seriously think you're going to get that out of McCarthy?

Some claimed Hundley was a MVP in waiting and just needed reps. How'd that work out when he got the reps? But let me guess, that was Rodgers' fault because he what, wouldn't help him? Wasn't that Brett's whole deal? Several of Brett's backups managed to have pretty good careers.

You cannot let your team leader defy the coach. That's how you get guys going rogue like Ty Montgomery.

That's how you get guys looking right at your coach and ignoring him, walking away.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Not going to continue going back and forth on this argument. You're clearly convinced this is gospel.
nerdmann
6 years ago

If typing that out doesn't make you realize how ludicrous that sounds then I'm not sure anybody can help you. Compared to what his raw talent says he should be capable? Yes Rodgers is bombing this season. He's middle of the pack overall. You mean to tell me that Brett freaking Kizer is a top-15 QB if he gets the reps? Yeah, maybe if the entire offensive system is re-tooled around him and you have a year or two. You seriously think you're going to get that out of McCarthy?

Some claimed Hundley was a MVP in waiting and just needed reps. How'd that work out when he got the reps? But let me guess, that was Rodgers' fault because he what, wouldn't help him? Wasn't that Brett's whole deal? Several of Brett's backups managed to have pretty good careers.



Not going to continue going back and forth on this argument. You're clearly convinced this is gospel.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



4-6-1 is 4-6-1. If you're good with that, stand pat.

It wasn't good enough when Ty Montgomery did it, why is Aaron different?
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Porforis
6 years ago

4-6-1 is 4-6-1. If you're good with that, stand pat.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yes clearly if I'm not ranting for two years about Rodgers intentionally sabotaging the team because something something stats I just hate the Packers and love losing because like, the backup quarterbacks ran over my dog or something so that's why I refused to believe Hundley would be a breakout star and don't think the Packers will do better than say, 2-3 for the rest of the season with Kizer under the helm.

I mean, can we talk about something measurable or are you just going to insinuate that I don't care losing?
Cheesey
6 years ago
This offense reminds me of “horse and buggy”. When everyone was driving a horse and buggy, ours was one of the fastest. But the automobile was invented, and everyone (except us) started driving cars, and passing us by. MM refuses to drive a car, and thus our team is getting RUN OVER.

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yooperfan
6 years ago

This offense reminds me of “horse and buggy”. When everyone was driving a horse and buggy, ours was one of the fastest. But the automobile was invented, and everyone (except us) started driving cars, and passing us by. Mike McCarthy refuses to drive a car, and thus our team is getting RUN OVER.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


OMG, I didn't know McCathy was Amish.
Had I knew that I would have a better understanding of things.
Unlike McCarthy the Amish are highly productive people>😁 .
Porforis
6 years ago

OMG, I didn't know McCathy was Amish.
Had I knew that I would have a better understanding of things.
Unlike McCarthy the Amish are highly productive people>😁 .

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Maybe it's just as easy as having Mike shave?
bboystyle
6 years ago

Defense sucks way overrated. An upgrade over Capers most definitely but not enough! They still can't shut offenses off!

Originally Posted by: shield4life 



Wrong. Defense is injured and having to play alongside a crappy offense that can sustain a drive to give them rest.
bboystyle
6 years ago

This is what I meant.
The GM makes the final decisions on who is drafted. Who is signed.
Not Mike McCarthy!

He can only work with the players given to him.
IMHO Guttekunst did not make very good moves this year.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Lol, what!? Gutes draft picks have been great for the most part. Dont forget 80% of this team is still Ted Thompson affiliated. Mike mccarthy is trash, plain and simple.
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