Zero2Cool
6 years ago
The 'with a laugh' makes me wonder if Murphy was being sarcastic. What do you think?

A day removed from the NFL changing its national anthem policy, it's hard to escape the feeling that they were simply bullied by the President into doing something, whether it actually made anybody happy or not. At least they admitted it. Via Albert Breer of SI.com, there was a clear sense at this week's owners [more]



Asked if Trump came up in their discussion, Packers president Mark Murphy replied with a laugh: “Oh yeah. It was more how [Trump] might react, anticipating that. Also, how the fans will react, how the media will react. That’s what we tried to think through. . . . No matter what we did, [Trump] would probably try to get involved one way or the other—either criticizing us or taking credit for the change.”

That seems obvious, and this morning’s appearance on FOX News will doubtless include a victory lap.

One owner said Trump’s name came up three times during the discussion, but not at length.

“[Trump] certainly initiated some of the thinking, and was a part of the entire picture,” Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. “But all of that was given consideration.”

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Zero2Cool
6 years ago
If you're interested, it looks like the NFL is moving towards what the NBA has already in regards to the anthem.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nfls-new-national-anthem-policy-similar-to-nba/13qp2bgkibtfw11jyjrjldz6d8 
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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
Trump losing the ability to tweet would be a true blessing to this world.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
I’m sorry, but that is pure B.S.!!!
The NFL doesn’t give a DAMN what Trump thinks.
They are just looking for someone to BLAME!
They are a bunch of spineless wimps.
“Hey! We are gonna do this, because this is what we WANT to do, then put the blame on the President so we look like we are blameless!”
They want the best of 2 worlds. Do what they want, then say “we HAD to do it ! Or big bad Trump would be MEAN to us!”
What a load of CRAP!!!!
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nerdmann
6 years ago

I’m sorry, but that is pure B.S.!!!
The NFL doesn’t give a DAMN what Trump thinks.
They are just looking for someone to BLAME!
They are a bunch of spineless wimps.
“Hey! We are gonna do this, because this is what we WANT to do, then put the blame on the President so we look like we are blameless!”
They want the best of 2 worlds. Do what they want, then say “we HAD to do it ! Or big bad Trump would be MEAN to us!”
What a load of CRAP!!!!

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



NFL has hated Trump going back to 1983.

This has to do with mass amounts of people turning away from the sport.
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gotarace
6 years ago
Follow the Money...The NFL and their owners worship the Almighty Buck. Revenue is down so let's cover the cat crap in the Sandbox and try to get back on the Gravy Train.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

NFL has hated Trump going back to 1983.

This has to do with mass amounts of people turning away from the sport.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Where are the numbers that support this?

I haven't found anything that shows attendance dropped with mass amounts.

And this combines Home/Away so you can safely cut this in half.
[list]
  • 2014 17,606,643
  • 2015 17,509,479
  • 2016 17,788,671
  • 2017 17,253,425 [/list]
  • With the Raiders moving, and Chargers having a stadium with something like 26,000, it's not really a surprise to see those attendance numbers drop.

    As for viewership, that's dropping all across the board with every sport, and the NFL is still dominating big a large margin.

    Where are the numbers?
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    Cheesey
    6 years ago
    I don't get what the big deal is. In any other job, you are not allowed to give your political views or "protest" on company time. So why should the NFL allow it? It would probably snow ball into more people finding "reasons" to protest.
    If they want to do it on their OWN time, I'm fine with it. Allowing the players that don't want to stand to stay off the field until the anthem is over is compromise in my view.

    Besides......where is the outrage about black people killing other black people, which literally happens every day all across the nation? Do black lives ONLY matter if a white cop is involved with the death?
    And what I have seen in the vast majority of these instances, the black person that ends up killed by a cop almost always is because of some action by the guy that ends up dead. Fight the cops, or take them on a high speed chase and resist arrest, what do you THINK might end up happening? The cop fears for his life, is doing a thankless job, and he's supposed to wait for the punk to kill him before he reacts?
    Just last week in Milwaukee, some punks were causing a disturbance at a mall. The mall people called the cops, and the kids scattered. The police caught one, the kid tried to fight the cop and the cop punched the kid in the face and took him down.
    Then the kid's mom is ALL upset, and is trying to sue the cop.
    Like it's the cop's fault that HER kid caused trouble and resisted being taken into custody.
    This is the kind of "family" that will cause some kid to get killed in the future. Don't teach your kids to act like civilized beings. And then when they CAUSE trouble, blame everyone else but yourself for not teaching them respect for others and authority.
    Just a load of crap. "My POOR baby! He got PUNCHED!" WHY???? BEACUSE HE ACTED LIKE AN ANIMAL!
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    beast
    6 years ago

    I’m sorry, but that is pure B.S.!!!
    The NFL doesn’t give a DAMN what Trump thinks.
    They are just looking for someone to BLAME!
    They are a bunch of spineless wimps.
    “Hey! We are gonna do this, because this is what we WANT to do, then put the blame on the President so we look like we are blameless!”
    They want the best of 2 worlds. Do what they want, then say “we HAD to do it ! Or big bad Trump would be MEAN to us!”
    What a load of CRAP!!!!

    Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



    This comment was pretty damn funny! 😂

    You're bitching about Trump being unfairly blamed, when Trump himself is taking a victory lap and taking all the credit/blame... so you're trying to defend Trump by saying this isn't his fault, while Trump is saying the complete opposite, that this was completely because of him.

    Clearly you're saying Trump does NOT deserve any blame... But are you also saying, Trump does NOT deserve any credit for this change? Or are you trying to have it both ways, where Trump gets no blame but all the credit?

    Trump and the NFL seem to agree, Trump deserves some credit/blame in this... I'll take them at their word since they're in agreement. But it's funny, how people are defending Trump from the "blame", when Trump is basically telling everyone he's at fault and deserves all the credit, which is him happily saying blame this one me.
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    Cheesey
    6 years ago
    Sorry Beast, but you are wrong.
    Trump can give his opinion to the NFL, or any other business, but unless it’s something against the law, he has NO power over them to change ANY of their rules.
    He can try to take credit, or the NFL can try to blame him, but both are not true.
    And if you read the last post I made, do you disagree with what I said?
    What is this “protest” REALLY about? Black lives MATTER? Or ONLY black lives matter if a cop is involved?
    It seems it’s “pick and choose” as far as that goes. Some “protest”, hey?
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