Zero2Cool
6 years ago
I can't remember the Packers being this transparent with the roster before. I could be wrong though. I just seem to remember them always saying things like "we like who we have, and we'll obviously add competition"

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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
Mike's awesome.
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nerdmann
6 years ago
Dude is coaching for his job. If he does the absolute minimum to just barely squeak into the playoffs, he’s done.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
But that is how mike does things. Shits the bed until hes up against the wall then blows it at the end because he coaches like a scared baby
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KRK
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6 years ago
It is a GREAT thing that Mike McCarthy has the frankness and candor to share his team assessments and self-assessment, especially the deficiencies, with the public. I find it both refreshing and encouraging. We all wanted change and we are getting it. We all want the truth, but it seems some of us can't handle it. How great is it that they are openly recognizing and admitting mistakes from the past:
- too predictable pre-snap on defense
- Randall was out of position
- stale on offense
- we don't have enough corners
- etc.

I believe we are going to to see:
- a revved up offensive re-design that is willing (and able) to 'scheme' people open with picks, rubs, slants (i.e. traditional west coast offense.)
- an attacking defense that considers a 3 and out more successful than a turnover after the opposing offense gains 55 yards.
- fewer screw-ups on defensive assignments.

The open recognition of our deficiencies is the first step to correcting them. I feel much more optimistic than I did before last season.

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Barfarn
6 years ago

It is a GREAT thing that Mike McCarthy has the frankness and candor to share his team assessments and self-assessment, especially the deficiencies, with the public. I find it both refreshing and encouraging. We all wanted change and we are getting it. We all want the truth, but it seems some of us can't handle it. How great is it that they are openly recognizing and admitting mistakes from the past:
- too predictable pre-snap on defense
- Randall was out of position
- stale on offense
- we don't have enough corners
- etc.

I believe we are going to to see:
- a revved up offensive re-design that is willing (and able) to 'scheme' people open with picks, rubs, slants (i.e. traditional west coast offense.)
- an attacking defense that considers a 3 and out more successful than a turnover after the opposing offense gains 55 yards.
- fewer screw-ups on defensive assignments.

The open recognition of our deficiencies is the first step to correcting them. I feel much more optimistic than I did before last season.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Only those that don't understand perfection want change from it.

But, yes I love the openness and honesty. Just imagine how much easier it'll be to discuss the draft when GB's GM "honestly and openly" publishes its draft board w/the scouting reports next week on Cheesehead TV.

And imagine honestly and openly disclosing injuries. Sure it'll caused our players to get targeted on the injury and will assist in our opponents being better prepared knowing for sure who will be playing...but at least US, the FANS, know what's up.

And player evaluations "honestly and openly" published would be great. Tell US, the FANS, who blew the assignments, who executed poorly or who executed great. Oh yea, we'll NEVER get a another FA after he sees players are publicly embarrassed and tossed under the bus. Ad it'll really destroy the team; but US, the FANS, the most impotent part of this football equation will know.

Now here's a question; Randall hasn't played a god damn down. Usually, these things come up after the player plays great. How does Mike know how he'll be? Does this mean Mike has known all along and just refused to move the guy to his best spot or kept a DC for 3 years who refused?

Oh and all that other crap, the stuff that is not generalized unsupported crazy talk...the problem was execution not design or play calling.
KRK
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6 years ago
Perhaps I am missing something, which happens alot....are you saying we had perfection?

I respectfully think you missed the point I was trying to make. I was trying to assert that Mike McCarthy was open and honest with the organizations and his past deficiencies.

I certainly did not assert that he should tip all plans, but it is obvious that we are going to draft at least 2 corners in the upcoming draft.
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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
I think Mike McCarthy was taking the high road. Damarius Randall mocked the packers after he got traded. That's what he does. That's how he acts. Mike McCarthy went the other way. Killed with kindness.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Where did he say all the above krk? Link to article?
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KRK
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6 years ago
he has said those things in various interviews and press conferences. i am challenged in regard to posting links etc.

From what I read and what I hear, I just feel there will be a different approach than the last 2-3 years.
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