DoddPower
7 years ago

Why not? They have the money. I don't think it would ever happen, but not because they couldn't pull it off, more because they wouldn't.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



In theory they could, but I just don't think the organization is aggressive or innovative enough to bring in players like this to help them for one season and then move on. I think the Patriots would put him in a much better position to succeed than the Packers.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago
I'm just not sure what Calvin Johnson is going to do for the Packers in in the post-season. It's not the offense that has failed as much as it it is the defense not holding teams down.

2016 was end with 44 points.
2015 was ended with 26 (OT) points.
2014 was ended with 28 (OT) points.

I don't see another WR adding points. Its the defense that needs to bottle teams up better.

I wouldn't take Calvin Johnson even at the veteran minimum.
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DoddPower
7 years ago

I wouldn't take Calvin Johnson even at the veteran minimum.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



lol. I think many others would take him at the veteran minimum. I have no faith the defense is going to significantly improve under the current regime, but maybe, just maybe, the offense can overcome it. Doubtful though.

yooperfan
7 years ago
The Packers don't need Megatron to win a Super Bowl, they need defense and Thompson doesn't have it in him to go after difference makers on defense to put the Packers over the top.
He will squander one of the greatest QB's of all time career counting pennies while spending big bucks on overrated guys and poor draft picks.
beast
7 years ago

The Packers don't need Megatron to win a Super Bowl, they need defense and Thompson doesn't have it in him to go after difference makers on defense to put the Packers over the top.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 


Nope, Thompson doesn't have it in him, and he'd never do that...[zipmouth]
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Cheesey
7 years ago
Defense is the true need. All the offense in the world won't win you a super bowl if your defense can't stop the other team.
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yooperfan
7 years ago

Nope, Thompson doesn't have it in him, and he'd never do that...[zipmouth]
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Originally Posted by: beast 


How long ago was that again?

Barfarn
7 years ago

I'm just not sure what Calvin Johnson is going to do for the Packers in in the post-season. It's not the offense that has failed as much as it it is the defense not holding teams down.

2016 was end with 44 points.
2015 was ended with 26 (OT) points.
2014 was ended with 28 (OT) points.

I don't see another WR adding points. Its the defense that needs to bottle teams up better.

I wouldn't take Calvin Johnson even at the veteran minimum.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Looking ONLY at points, then asserting something that would fit on a bumper sticker ["It's the D's fault"] is one way to bring an opinion to bare.

Of course one could analyze it differently in pointing out that with a hard cap financial resources were not spread evenly [the O had 3 times the # of elite contracts as the D], so the responsibility should not be spread evenly.

Or that fumbles, INTs a QB taking sacks after passing up open short routes, a QB refusing to execute his offense, an offense being shut-out averaging 4 plays per drive can be the direct cause of a D giving up more points than they would have if the offense executed up to their contracts.

But we cant twitter or bumper sticker that argument!

Reminds me of a brilliant song by Jill Sobule YOU TUBE LINK  about the bumper sticker quote: "we want our America back"

Here's a sample:

Before there was Ellis island
And that statue we got from the French
That whore’s still alerting, with strangers she’s flirting
Inviting them into our beds
The guineas, the coolies, the wetbacks, the reds
The Jews, now those terrorists
And who let in the woman who looks after my kid
And the one who is cleaning my mess?

Chorus:
Life was better, we lived right,
Life had a paler shade of white,
when they sing “We want our America Back”
"Our America back," "our America back.”
When they say, ” we want our America back”
Well, what the fuck do they mean?
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Looking ONLY at points, then asserting something that would fit on a bumper sticker ["It's the D's fault"] is one way to bring an opinion to bare.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Quite true, but I remember watching the games and thinking similar thoughts. The defense needs to step up. I wouldn't argue putting some onus on the Packers offense in the 2014 game. Mainly because I think one late sustained drive eats the clock and then there's no stupid onsides kick crap ...
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isocleas2
7 years ago
He's the new Barry Sanders 😁 everytime a star player in Detroit retires early they're going to be haunted by the unretirement talk.

I'd take Calvin at the minimum but after a couple years away from football he likely isn't the player everyone remembers, or even close to it. Also he did have some injury concerns that helped lead him down the early retirement road who knows how reliable he'd even be.
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