There has been a lot of bickering here due to my presence here since the Atlanta loss. wpr in his usually thoughtful manner was giving his opinion to my bringing up Starks contract in his release thread after beast railed against his contract being brought up at all.

This is the dead zone for NFL football. What should we be talking about right now? Many are tired of Ted talk or maybe just Ted bashing but isn't he the one guy we can and should be talking about? Who else is going to affect the fortunes of this franchise for 2017 other than him?

Would gladly change gears and talk about something else if there is a case to be made that we shouldn't be talking about our GM who is in the spotlight right now. Everything else to me is just peripheral. Ted is center stage. The bat is on his shoulder. Will he swing or try to take 4 balls and walk to first?

My feeling is the forum would really quiet down if we refrain from Ted talk. He's a polarizing figure, moreso, after our 6th straight playoff exit than ever before.

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Trump?

There isn't much else to talk about and if people wanted to bring up a topic, nothing is stopping them from starting a thread.

Even though I couldn't disagree with you more about Starks, for example, I like having you contribute to topics because otherwise the Starks thread would be 10 posts of "thanks for your service, you were great in 2010."

Talk about cutting Clay

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4 million in dead cap next year would hurt, but I believe it saves close to 11 mil each of the next two years. It's getting tougher to believe you can't find 1 or even 2 guys to match his production with an 11 million dollar budget.

I'd have to think Ted is talking about a restructure with his agent.

There are a couple of dozen topics we can start that don't specifically deal with the Packer's management. They may have some impact. After all Ted signs them and Mike trots them on to the field. But besides that we can look at the players themselves.

We don't want them all in here but we should discuss Cobb. He has been mentioned in other threads but deserves his own.
What's next for Jordy? Is he really back all the way or will his age and injuries cause a precipitous drop over the next 2-3 years?
Should they keep Janis? Should he play more?
Is Allison the real deal?
Thoughts on the rest to the WR corps.
The Oline. Who do we keep? Who do we let walk? If Lang walks is Spriggs, Murphy, Tretter or Barclay going to fill the gap? Is Bulaga worth the $34 mil? Or Bakhtiari worth $48 mil for that matter.
Lindsey or Tretter at C?
When do they try and move Huntley? With Cutler, Garoppolo and Romo lurking around not this year.
Did Kenny Clark measure up for being a #1 pick?
Rate the rookies as a whole group.
Were you happy with Martinez and Ryan's performances this year? Should Burnett spend more time in the middle and have someone else fill in at SS?
CBs or the lack there of has been hammered on pretty good this past season. Any new thoughts would be interesting.
Is Schum the bum we thought he was or did he finish the season strong enough to merit the job again?
KO and P returns? A lot can be said for this.

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Who's better, Davante Adams or Jeff Janis? 😂

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HA, not that shit again, you just want to own people in that debated (again) just like Adams owned Richard Sherman on that block for Janis' TD run... [bdance]

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Who's better, Eddie Lacy or Aaron Ripkowski?

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Can talk about any FA whether from the Pack or other teams. Don't need to try and bag on Ted to do that. WE all know how Ted has been, beating that dead horse doesn't accomplish anything.

And we talking about FA, it makes better discussion if it is more than. We need to sign a FA. Identify a target, research and figure what he would likely get in money and how that would impact the team.

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Ted will sign FAs all day and all night, long as they don't cost us a compensatory pick. Any unrestricteds out there?

Ted is all about VALUE. When you draft a guy, you get FOUR YEARS of rookie pay scale. That's a big deal to a team in a small market. It's not IS THIS GUY BETTER THAN A FOURTH ROUNDER. It's is this guy a better VALUE than a fourth rounder.

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