buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

Role reversal: James Starks, Eddie Lacy in the Packers' new running order

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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
This was a very important move to make, even if it is mostly only symbolic.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Cheesey
9 years ago
Starks EARNED it. He's making plays while Lacy has done nothing.
I really thought Lacy was going to be a HUGE part of our offense.
Very disappointing.
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yooperfan
9 years ago
Perhaps this will light a fire under Lacy's ass making him more effective for the last 1/4 of the season.
However, unless the terrible play of the o-line improves, the running game will continue to struggle no matter who totes the rock.
The o-line is the core of our offensive woes.
At ant rate, Starks has earned the starting job at this point.
nerdmann
9 years ago
People forget how good Starks is. Iirc, he was rated as the #2 back in the country his junior year, we only got a deal on him, because of the shoulder injury. Missed his senior year due to surgery.

Let's see if he holds up under the increased workload.
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dhazer
9 years ago

Starks EARNED it. He's making plays while Lacy has done nothing.
I really thought Lacy was going to be a HUGE part of our offense.
Very disappointing.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



😝 He is a huge part of this offense, haven't you seen the gut on him he could play the o-line for us hahahaha
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
DoddPower
9 years ago
I never understood how some people were thinking and/or wanting Starks to be cut or be the #3 RB this offseason. Give me a break. The guy can play. He's definitely not great or elite, but he's a very good player and a very good #2 RB. He's potentially an average to decent #1 RB depending on the offensive line play. If he receives 80% of the snaps or more, he would like be very good.
nerdmann
9 years ago

I never understood how some people were thinking and/or wanting Starks to be cut or be the #3 RB this offseason. Give me a break. The guy can play. He's definitely not great or elite, but he's a very good player and a very good #2 RB. He's potentially an average to decent #1 RB depending on the offensive line play. If he receives 80% of the snaps or more, he would like be very good.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I'd take him over Grant any day.

He's not on the level of Ahman Green or Eddie Lacy (normally) but I'd put him on par with Dorsey Levens.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
luigis
9 years ago

Starks EARNED it. He's making plays while Lacy has done nothing.
I really thought Lacy was going to be a HUGE part of our offense.
Very disappointing.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I think we all agree on this and I think the reason why Lacy is playing so bad is egregious coaching.
Let's see:

Lacy runs for 8/9 yards... what do you do? Pull him out, throw in the next 11 plays, run a few with Starks, put him back in.
He runs 3, then 6. You are in 3rd and 1 what do you do? Pull him and throw a pass...
Starks run for 9/12 yards, you pull him, put Lacy in, he runs for 1 yard, you throw in the next 27 plays.

I think Tom Clemments has no idea about how to handle the running game.

I'm not saying that Lacy is playing great but coaching is surely contributing to his erratic play, there's no rythm and Lacy is a back to play every single down.

Starks is a very good RB and is smart. I'm happy for him because he really deserves it, he was very underrated so far. If I were Clemments having two excellent RBs I would play one on every play and both of them in many many plays. I don't care how, I want my best players on the field.

Luis
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
If anyone thinks this is big news or even news at all, you're not really paying much attention. When it comes to the Packers and who is starting at RB, it is irrelevant. The Packers have consistently rolled with the hotter hand and that will not change. If Starks gets stuffed several times and Lacy is getting penetration, Lacy will be the one getting the bulk of the remaining touches.
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