Barfarn
9 years ago
Lacy and Adams injured ankles in Seattle, Adams came back to play, Lacy didn’t. Who’s injury was more serious/susceptible to reinjury? Lacy, Right? But he got through the game and had a lot more stress put on his injured ankle than Adams’. The medical staff has expertise and MRIs and given how conservative they usually are I don’t think they can be blamed for Adams’ reinjury, unless ya got more info (Like Musccy said). The reinjury was a fluke because Adams was doing a Janis impersonation and went up awkwardly for that ball.

Play #1-Adams was running an option hook. If CB is inside he hooks outside and vice-versa. The CB was inside but Adams turned inside [the wrong way] and Aaron Rodgers threw outside. Adams had to awkwardly lunge back for the ball and was perfectly okay. [Boykin did this a few times in 2014].

Play #2-Adams blocks with great leg drive on Lacy’s run, again looks perfectly okay.

Play #3-Adams was running an out, Aaron Rodgers either made a bad throw or Adams was supposed to turn up field [probably the later]. Adams suddenly stopped and leaped off his bad foot while pirouetting. I think reinjury occurred on way up and caused or contributed to Adams missing the catch; because he landed on his good foot. Though it should be noted CB made contact just as bad foot hit ground, so it is possible the reinjury occurred while landing. I bet if Adams runs all his routes correctly, thus eliminating the need for awkward lunges and pirouetting leaps, he probably finishes the game.

Ted Thompson and the med staff expressly informed us that Adams’ injury would not be long term, when they placed Q on IR-DTR. GB did not want to lose Gaston [hope he makes PS; but I doubt it, someone will claim him-EG, Patriots activated Kyrie Thornton to their 53 from PS this week], so they’d IR Adams if he was going to be out for year and if they were not sure then its Adams that ends up on IR-DTR, not Q. I think Q should request of Godell to serve his suspension over the next couple of weeks.😂

Abbey being called up is proof Adams ain’t playin’. With only 5 WRs and 3 TEs on roster with Q and Adams out; and Backman, Monty and Janis not having full grasp of playbook [because they are rookies or not so bright] that leaves us with only 3 dependable targets. Abby will be the 4th most dependable target v. 49ers.
beast
9 years ago

This happened today? Aren't they already in San Francisco?

I wonder if he made the trip! (?)

Originally Posted by: greengold 



I'm not sure, but I think practice players do make road trips as well... I remember a couple of years ago there was a story about the coaches being upset they had to hold the plane because some player(s) were suppose to show up and didn't... they held the plane until the got there. The player(s) thought they weren't going because they're on the practice squad and not going to be playing in the game (like college teams don't bring all their back-up players who they don't think will get on the field). But I could be confusing that with inactive players... if they told some player they were going to be inactive before making the trip.

But that would be very awkward for Gaston/coaches... if they told him we're releasing you while on a road trip. Do you leave them in SF? Do you try to catch a team plane ride back home to get your stuff out of Wisconsin? Do you wait to see if your claimed? Or if they might offer a PS spot to you? etc, etc.

But overall I see this as Gaston got released for Guion and Abbrederis got signed for Quarless going on IR.

It'll be interesting how comfortable they feel with Abbrederis or will he be on the inactive list... or 5 WRs? or maybe even 4th if they like what they've seen in the last month.

As for having 3 slot WR types... that could be a good thing, with not having Nelson to stretch the field and the OT not being a huge strength they could be going for a lot more shorter passes to get Y.A.C. on more than the deep treat or possession WR.
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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago

As for having 3 slot WR types... that could be a good thing, with not having Nelson to stretch the field and the OT not being a huge strength they could be going for a lot more shorter passes to get Y.A.C. on more than the deep treat or possession WR.

Originally Posted by: beast 


Could running 3 slot WR types kinda be like teams running 2 TE sets? The guys are just a bit shorter and smaller.


Barfarn
9 years ago

But that would be very awkward for Gaston/coaches... if they told him we're releasing you while on a road trip. Do you leave them in SF? Do you try to catch a team plane ride back home to get your stuff out of Wisconsin? Do you wait to see if your claimed? Or if they might offer a PS spot to you? etc, etc.

It'll be interesting how comfortable they feel with Abbrederis or will he be on the inactive list... or 5 WRs? or maybe even 4th if they like what they've seen in the last month.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Beast, they just told Gaston they were flying out of Milwaukee; by the time Gaston figured it out, he was released...Ya dont want an in-air incident w/ a guy that big😂

Seriously, I cant imagine any il-will by Gaston on his release. He knows he's #7 DL and cut when Jones and Guion come back. He got some hope when Boyd went down; but still knows he's a #52-53 guy and saw Joe Thomas' performance .

GB surely informed Gaston that he's still viewed as a Packer, that if he doesn't get claimed, he'll be asked to join PS or even better play that 54 man roster trick w/him.

And ABBy is playing. The ONLY ways they cut Gaston and Abby sits is if Abby gets a concussion i warm ups or another GM was trying to woo Abby w/ a promise of a roster spot, and I cant see this happening. I'll be stunned if Janis gets more reps, I wonder if Abby or Monty gets more.
nerdmann
9 years ago

Lacy and Adams injured ankles in Seattle, Adams came back to play, Lacy didn’t. Who’s injury was more serious/susceptible to reinjury? Lacy, Right? But he got through the game and had a lot more stress put on his injured ankle than Adams’. The medical staff has expertise and MRIs and given how conservative they usually are I don’t think they can be blamed for Adams’ reinjury, unless ya got more info (Like Musccy said). The reinjury was a fluke because Adams was doing a Janis impersonation and went up awkwardly for that ball.

Play #1-Adams was running an option hook. If CB is inside he hooks outside and vice-versa. The CB was inside but Adams turned inside [the wrong way] and Aaron Rodgers threw outside. Adams had to awkwardly lunge back for the ball and was perfectly okay. [Boykin did this a few times in 2014].

Play #2-Adams blocks with great leg drive on Lacy’s run, again looks perfectly okay.

Play #3-Adams was running an out, Aaron Rodgers either made a bad throw or Adams was supposed to turn up field [probably the later]. Adams suddenly stopped and leaped off his bad foot while pirouetting. I think reinjury occurred on way up and caused or contributed to Adams missing the catch; because he landed on his good foot. Though it should be noted CB made contact just as bad foot hit ground, so it is possible the reinjury occurred while landing. I bet if Adams runs all his routes correctly, thus eliminating the need for awkward lunges and pirouetting leaps, he probably finishes the game.


Ted Thompson and the med staff expressly informed us that Adams’ injury would not be long term, when they placed Q on IR-DTR. GB did not want to lose Gaston [hope he makes PS; but I doubt it, someone will claim him-EG, Patriots activated Kyrie Thornton to their 53 from PS this week], so they’d IR Adams if he was going to be out for year and if they were not sure then its Adams that ends up on IR-DTR, not Q. I think Q should request of Godell to serve his suspension over the next couple of weeks.😂

Abbey being called up is proof Adams ain’t playin’. With only 5 WRs and 3 TEs on roster with Q and Adams out; and Backman, Monty and Janis not having full grasp of playbook [because they are rookies or not so bright] that leaves us with only 3 dependable targets. Abby will be the 4th most dependable target v. 49ers.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



If Davante's injury turns out to have been a broken leg and the Packers staff misdiagnosed it, then that's it man. They'll need to make a change.
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greengold
9 years ago

But overall I see this as Gaston got released for Guion and Abbrederis got signed for Quarless going on IR.

Originally Posted by: beast 



This is a good way to look at it. Gaston was a healthy scratch for gameday even while Guion was suspended. The only thing that delayed Gaston's release was Quarless going on IR.

Hopefully Gaston clears waivers and can take Abby's spot on the PS.







Porforis
9 years ago

Well, let's see how long he lasts before he gets hurt

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



He'd fit right in with the starters, is what you're saying?
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