Gaycandybacon
9 years ago
I expect raji to get better as the season progresses, he was gone for a full year lets remember. And tbh im not gonna base how he will play going into the season by his preseason performance. To be frank the rest of the starters didn't even play all that well in the preseason, it's more about the young guys than the vets. Ima wait a couple games in to judge how he's looking this year, I do feel he'll improve the run D though. He's coming in at a healthy weight and looks to contribute alot. And when Guion comes back at the end, we're gonna be that much better. Also Pennel is a beast I'm thinking he's gonna be rotated in there alot. Hell play him at end sometimes, I doubt Boyd is any more nimble than he is.
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
Yeah, I agree, let's wait about 3 games before judging Raji - keep him if he plays good, cut his ass if he doesn't.

Like they say in old cowboy movies, give him a fair trial, then hang him.
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nerdmann
9 years ago
For Packers' defense, shutting down the run is key 

"If we could start where we were after the bye week, we would have been the fifth or sixth run defense in the league, where we were down in the bottom five the first half," Capers said. "You saw how much change that made.

"Hell, we played the two best running teams in the league (Dallas' DeMarco Murray and Seattle's Marshawn Lynch) in the playoffs and because we played the run pretty well we were able to get nine sacks in those games. You didn't see those teams get sacked that much."

Either because of the way the season ended or because of the way it started, Capers and coach Mike McCarthy made stopping the run an emphasis all off-season. Their decision to keep Matthews inside, keep the bulkier Nate Palmer and Jake Ryan as backups over undersized Joe Thomas and Carl Bradford and re-sign end/nose tackle Letroy Guion despite an off-field arrest are part of that commitment.

What's more, there have been some changes in the way Capers is attacking the run, none of which he or the players was willing to share heading into the season opener against Chicago at Soldier Field Sunday. But it wouldn't be surprising if Capers continued to keep a safety in the box and used packages with linebacker-sized Sean Richardson as a third safety.

The Packers are going to know pretty quickly whether they're a competent run defense because they face three 1,000-yard rushers from last year right out of the gate: Chicago's Matt Forte (1,038), Seattle's Lynch (1,306) and Kansas City's Jamal Charles (1,033).


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9 years ago
All we can do is hope that Raji loves Raji enough to put forth a good effort in a contract year.

He has to learn to enjoy being double and triple teamed each down he is in there.
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Tezzy
9 years ago

All we can do is hope that Raji loves Raji enough to put forth a good effort in a contract year.

He has to learn to enjoy being double and triple teamed each down he is in there.

Originally Posted by: CaliforniaCheez 



He needs to earn that double, triple team for his new contract. His agent would be smart to be whispering that in his ear every moment he can. If that's all he does from a stats perspective this year is force any decent rate of double teams, then I will be happy to have his large mass in there.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I expect raji to get better as the season progresses, he was gone for a full year lets remember. And tbh im not gonna base how he will play going into the season by his preseason performance. To be frank the rest of the starters didn't even play all that well in the preseason, it's more about the young guys than the vets. Ima wait a couple games in to judge how he's looking this year, I do feel he'll improve the run D though. He's coming in at a healthy weight and looks to contribute alot. And when Guion comes back at the end, we're gonna be that much better. Also Pennel is a beast I'm thinking he's gonna be rotated in there alot. Hell play him at end sometimes, I doubt Boyd is any more nimble than he is.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



He's been away for a year, but hasn't played his actual position in a few years.
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beast
9 years ago

He's been away for a year, but hasn't played his actual position in a few years.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Which is partly (maybe largely) his fault... after winning the Super Bowl he relaxed (which I think he has openly admitted) and relaxed too much and his game slipped because of it, especially his run defense... Packers wanted a better run defender at NT so they moved Pickett in there because Raji wasn't getting the job done and Raji continued his struggles defending against the run at 3-4 DE which is thought to be easier to do than NT.


If Raji does better this season I don't think it's because of his move back to NT.... I'll give credit to Raji being shocked at his lack of interest in free agency to bring a chip back to his shoulders and then the injury which might of added to the chip making it even larger. Hopefully those chips have gotten to him and he has stopped relaxing and is now out there to reprove himself with another Super Bowl ring.
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nerdmann
9 years ago
Barrington should help the run D too. He ain't in there for his coverage skills. lol
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DakotaT
9 years ago
Yeah we found out we still can't stop the run. Move Pennel to NT.
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RainX
9 years ago
Getting Burnett and Jones back next week certainly won't hurt our run D given how bad it was today. They'd get a D from me today grading on a curve given they were missing two defensive linemen and Forte is a decent back. You aren't going to get any gimmes from Skittles next week, that's for sure.
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