Mike McCarthy: Who follows the Green Bay Packers coach?· Page 3

beast
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9 years ago

I'm not saying Hundley is a lock, I'm saying he's got a high ceiling.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I agree that Hundley has a very high potential ceiling, but also a very low floor... he could boom or bust. I think he's going to need at least two years (really I'm thinking 3 years) to develop at the very least... of course it didn't it take Rodgers two years?

But the Packers history with MM as head coach of drafting QB hasn't been good (Rodgers was before MM got here) and MM reportedly was part of the group that got the 49ers to draft Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers because he saw their skills as about equal and thought Smith could move better/faster.

nerdmann
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9 years ago

#22

I agree that Hundley has a very high potential ceiling, but also a very low floor... he could boom or bust. I think he's going to need at least two years (really I'm thinking 3 years) to develop at the very least... of course it didn't it take Rodgers two years?

But the Packers history with Mike McCarthy as head coach of drafting QB hasn't been good (Rodgers was before Mike McCarthy got here) and Mike McCarthy reportedly was part of the group that got the 49ers to draft Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers because he saw their skills as about equal and thought Smith could move better/faster.

Originally Posted by: beast

Aaron wasn't shit before Mike got here. Ted hired Mike BECAUSE he needed him to develop Aaron.

I mean Ingle Martin? Really? lol

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beast
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9 years ago

#23

Aaron wasn't shit before Mike got here. Ted hired Mike BECAUSE he needed him to develop Aaron.

I mean Ingle Martin? Really? lol

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

You missed the point... MM's then team (49ers) could have drafted Rodgers, MM has admitted he wanted Alex Smith more... now MM has joined the Packers and other than Flynn all the drafted QBs have sucked...

MM might be a good developer but he also might be a poor scouter.

Fans seem to question most position picks, unless Packers have proven success (WR position under TT) but I don't get why QBs get thought of as such a sure thing of success when most of them have busted including one in the second round (TT's best round)

As far as Hundley/Martin comparison, they have more in common than you might think. Both are about 6'2.5", 223 lbs, ran about a 4.64 in their 40 yard dashes and lit up the combine events as their athletic potential (at least for a QB) is great... and both their biggest questions are more about their the mental side to the game and can they mentally adjust or not.

I don't know if mentally Hundley can adjust or not, but seems like a lot of athletic QBS go bust for some reason. .. hopefully Hundley will buck that trend and become great for the Packers.

nerdmann
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9 years ago

#24

You missed the point... MM's then team (49ers) could have drafted Rodgers, Mike McCarthy has admitted he wanted Alex Smith more... now Mike McCarthy has joined the Packers and other than Flynn all the drafted QBs have sucked...

Mike McCarthy might be a good developer but he also might be a poor scouter.

Fans seem to question most position picks, unless Packers have proven success (WR position under TT) but I don't get why QBs get thought of as such a sure thing of success when most of them have busted including one in the second round (TT's best round)

As far as Hundley/Martin comparison, they have more in common than you might think. Both are about 6'2.5", 223 lbs, ran about a 4.64 in their 40 yard dashes and lit up the combine events as their athletic potential (at least for a QB) is great... and both their biggest questions are more about their the mental side to the game and can they mentally adjust or not.

I don't know if mentally Hundley can adjust or not, but seems like a lot of athletic QBS go bust for some reason. .. hopefully Hundley will buck that trend and become great for the Packers.

Originally Posted by: beast

Maybe I'm wrong, but I never looked at Ingle Martin as a serious potential starter. Never thought he had the arm. Thought he had more potential as a punter.

Hundley could very well wash out, but imo he's got a high ceiling.

Mike did recommend the Niners to take Alex Smith. There were issues with Aaron coming out in the draft. But even though Aaron was arguably the weaker of the two prospects, look what Mike has subsequently done with him.

It wasn't just Mike who liked Alex Smith better. Remember what happened to Aaron in that draft?

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