PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

Sometimes the best FA moves are those not made. Many clamored for Goldsen and Martellus Bennett. How could the Bears want so badly to take a cap hit to get rid of such an awesome stud TE like Bennett? To find the answer just ask the teams that knew him best and didn't want him either [Dallas, Giants]. After human life on our planet is vaporized after burning the tar sands and distant travelers [Thomptedsians] excavate our remains, Martellus Bennett's petrified corpse will be unearthed, preserved and exhibited at the Wolfsonian Museum to teach young Thomptedsians what 21st century free agency was all about. Ted Thompson gets an A+ for "just saying no."

Again the key to winning a SB is having a load of 1st contract studs; you cant win w/o having them. Every vet FA signed REDUCES the odds of creating a 1st contact stud, REDUCING the odds of winning.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



We would not have won our last SB without the outside FA that Ted had brought in also.

How does a FA reduce the odds of a drafted player from becoming a stud? Did Woodson and Harris prevent Tramon's development? No, they actually were instrumental in him becoming the player he ended up being.

A team cannot fill every position through draft and develop. There are to many positions and players career and contract length are to short.
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Bigbyfan
10 years ago

We would not have won our last SB without the outside FA that Ted had brought in also.

How does a FA reduce the odds of a drafted player from becoming a stud? Did Woodson and Harris prevent Tramon's development? No, they actually were instrumental in him becoming the player he ended up being.

A team cannot fill every position through draft and develop. There are to many positions and players career and contract length are to short.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



They even filled small needs with free agent. My personal favorite small free agent was fat boy Howard Green. They brought him in mid season I believe and helped with our dline depth and run depth. He was the one that made the hit on Big Ben that caused the pick 6.
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gbguy20
10 years ago

They even filled small needs with free agent. My personal favorite small free agent was fat boy Howard Green. They brought him in mid season I believe and helped with our dline depth and run depth. He was the one that made the hit on Big Ben that caused the pick 6.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



Get out of my damn head. I was thinking this EXACT thing today at noon. I wanted to post it because it seems like many have forgotten about him, but I didn't know where to put it! Good work sir.
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Barfarn
10 years ago

We would not have won our last SB without the outside FA that Ted had brought in also.

How does a FA reduce the odds of a drafted player from becoming a stud? Did Woodson and Harris prevent Tramon's development? No, they actually were instrumental in him becoming the player he ended up being.

A team cannot fill every position through draft and develop. There are to many positions and players career and contract length are to short.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I wasn't very clear! Having No FAs is the rule, which should only be broken under the special circumstances. High character studs like Woodson, Pickett and Peppers qualify; an absolute minimum of very few easily cuttable hopefully cheap vet FA in a position of need that wont upset the culture is okay as well; like Guion last year. The GM must try to structure the contracts w/o that balloon payment at end, so if the player works out, but leaves, at the end of the deal and GB gets a comp pick.

Its actually D, D and K [Draft, Develop and Keep the core].

Example: If GB picked up Spikes for 3M per for 2 years after May 12. That is one roster spot not going to a young player, reducing the odds of developing a 1st contract stud. Every rep Spikes takes in practice or game detracts from the development of a Bradford, Palmer, Ryan and Joe Thomas. And that's 6M lost that could have gone toward keeping a core guy like Daniels or Hayward. The odds dictate that Spikes is not going to be better than the 4 youngsters, if he is, he wont be better by any significant amount and the odds increase an outsider will negatively affect the culture. Now if those 4 ILBs stink, Spikes is of good football character and you're in the hunt; then you break the rule and sign Spikes.

In 2014, if Raji dont get hurt, I think GB cuts the unknown quantity of Gioun, to develop the more known quantities of Pennell and Boyd, who would take the reps and one roster spot otherwise given to Gioun. Today, Gioun [outside of his bust] would be a known quantity and it can be gauged if he should receive a longer term contract. Extending your own guys creates an infinitely greater odds of success than signing outsiders.

D&D&K can fill every spot because core guys keep several positions for 5-8-10-15 years. Maybe ya find a Woodson and he becomes a core guy for a long time. If a Raji-type flames out and the cupboard is bare at the time; then ya plug the hole in the dyke w/ a Gioun.
Smokey
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10 years ago
With last season's second string CB's and unproven "developmental" rookie CB's from the draft, the Packers expect to compete against experienced professional QB's / WR's ?

Wake up and smell the toast burn ! The Packers are Doomed . [cursing]

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hardrocker950
10 years ago

With last season's second string CB's and unproven "developmental" rookie CB's from the draft, the Packers expect to compete against experienced professional QB's / WR's ?

Wake up and smell the toast burn ! The Packers are Doomed . [cursing]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Yes - this is so logical. No way that our other guys could develop into decent players right? I suppose our rookies are automatically garbage just because you didn't pick them.

I understand though - it is easier to spew doom and gloom if you ignore the facts and possibilities.
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

With last season's second string CB's and unproven "developmental" rookie CB's from the draft, the Packers expect to compete against experienced professional QB's / WR's ?

Wake up and smell the toast burn ! The Packers are Doomed . [cursing]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



You must have held Tramon Williams and Davon House to a very high regard. I would venture to say the Packers secondary will be improved in 2015 compared to 2014.
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mi_keys
10 years ago
So in summary:




Born and bred a cheesehead
DarkaneRules
10 years ago

With last season's second string CB's and unproven "developmental" rookie CB's from the draft, the Packers expect to compete against experienced professional QB's / WR's ?

Wake up and smell the toast burn ! The Packers are Doomed . [cursing]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I'm starting to wonder if you're just messing with us 😕
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Smokey
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10 years ago

I'm starting to wonder if you're just messing with us 😕

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 





I'm a Packer fan until the day I die. That ,"best player available" crap is just an excuse to do as he pleases. Gambling on players that he is thinks will magically become the stars they never were in college, as he passes on much better qualified players.

Watch, wait, and see as the weakest portion of the 2015 Packers will prove to be the secondary. So when the Corner Backs get burned, just think TED TOASTED again !

Offense wins games, Defense wins Championships.

There will be no Championships for many years to come, and the shame of it is that the Packers will have one of the best offenses in 2015. It's a Ted thing and no one understands it, yet few question it at all.

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