texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
I want to get this posted BEFORE tomorrow's Wisconsin game because I want it regardless of how that game goes down. Never mind the fact that we have Lacy and he's exceptional. Never mind the fact that Starks is a fairly decent change of pace RB. Never mind the fact that Harris might be a better change of pace RB than Starks.

I WANT MELVIN GORDON TAKEN BY THE PACKERS!

Never mind that we need a good ILB - the second round will work for that. Never mind that it wouldn't be a bad idea to copy what the Cowboys have done with first round picks in their O Line - our luck/skill/whatever will first round O Lineman hasn't been so hot (Ted just ain't Jerry hahahahaha).

Maybe Gordon will be gone by the time the Packers pick - I've heard it said he could go as high as #1 or 2, but the way it has been with RBs, I'd say it's 60/40 he's still there for us - just as Lacy was there in the second round. IMO, Gordon is a once in a generation player whose ability will translate to the NFL. I've been around since Jim Brown, and I haven't seen anybody other than Brown and maybe O.J. who was better - not even Sayers or Sanders, certainly not Emmet Smith or Payton.

Just imagine Gordon's breakaway ability and Rodgers' passing, and salivate about it. 60% of the plays Gordon on the field, and 40% Lacy.
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nerdmann
10 years ago
He'll be available in the 3rd.

RBs aren't that important in the league right now.
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steveishere
10 years ago
It's possible he would fall that far and be BPA and we'd use him. I would be ok with getting him or Gurley in the 1st. It depends on how our FA goes with resigning players but this might be a good year for us to just BPA early in the draft and grab a luxury player like that.
sschind
10 years ago

He'll be available in the 3rd.

RBs aren't that important in the league right now.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 




I doubt he will be available in the third. You are right that RBs are not as important now but I think you have seen them fall about as far as they will fall. Teams realize they still need a good one, he just doesn't have to be great so a RB with talent will always be a high consideration. I know it seems like teams can pick guys up out of the blue (no pun intended but it works) and to a degree that is true but look at the emphasis that some teams place on a talented rookie even when they supposedly have a top RB in place. The Rams had Stacy and took Mason and the Bengals had Bernard and took Hill. It may be that teams no longer look at them as a 1st round priority so good talent slips and teams grab them in the second.

I could see the Packers doing it but I highly doubt it.
mi_keys
10 years ago
You're all wrong. The correct answer for what you hope and pray for next year's first round pick is that it's 32nd.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

I doubt he will be available in the third. You are right that RBs are not as important now but I think you have seen them fall about as far as they will fall. Teams realize they still need a good one, he just doesn't have to be great so a RB with talent will always be a high consideration. I know it seems like teams can pick guys up out of the blue (no pun intended but it works) and to a degree that is true but look at the emphasis that some teams place on a talented rookie even when they supposedly have a top RB in place. The Rams had Stacy and took Mason and the Bengals had Bernard and took Hill. It may be that teams no longer look at them as a 1st round priority so good talent slips and teams grab them in the second.

I could see the Packers doing it but I highly doubt it.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I'd consider him in the 2nd, especially since we'll probably picking at the bottom of the round.

Still sickens me that we lost Franklin.
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sschind
10 years ago

I want to get this posted BEFORE tomorrow's Wisconsin game because I want it regardless of how that game goes down. Never mind the fact that we have Lacy and he's exceptional. Never mind the fact that Starks is a fairly decent change of pace RB. Never mind the fact that Harris might be a better change of pace RB than Starks.

I WANT MELVIN GORDON TAKEN BY THE PACKERS!

Never mind that we need a good ILB - the second round will work for that. Never mind that it wouldn't be a bad idea to copy what the Cowboys have done with first round picks in their O Line - our luck/skill/whatever will first round O Lineman hasn't been so hot (Ted just ain't Jerry hahahahaha).

Maybe Gordon will be gone by the time the Packers pick - I've heard it said he could go as high as #1 or 2, but the way it has been with RBs, I'd say it's 60/40 he's still there for us - just as Lacy was there in the second round. IMO, Gordon is a once in a generation player whose ability will translate to the NFL. I've been around since Jim Brown, and I haven't seen anybody other than Brown and maybe O.J. who was better - not even Sayers or Sanders, certainly not Emmet Smith or Payton.

Just imagine Gordon's breakaway ability and Rodgers' passing, and salivate about it. 60% of the plays Gordon on the field, and 40% Lacy.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Would you still want him if he had played somewhere else and put up the same stats but you hadn't been following him as closely because you were not a fan of the team?

The problem is I doubt McCarthy would run them at a 60/40 split I don't care how talented they both are. This season Lacy and Starks were about 75/25 and I just don't see MM changing it up that much. It was a tiny bit closer percentage wise this season but that was pretty much due to Lacy getting fewer carries not Starks getting more. Granted Gordon maybe a superior talent to Starks but that does not automatically mean MM would use him more.

I don't care if it is the 32 pick I want a guy that theoretically will be able to break the starting lineup and play more than 25% of the downs (figuring roughly 50/50 split O and D and 50/50 split Gordon and Lacy

Lastly, who was picking him to go as high as 1 or 2. I sure as heck don't want that guy making my draft picks.
sschind
10 years ago

I'd consider him in the 2nd, especially since we'll probably picking at the bottom of the round.

Still sickens me that we lost Franklin.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah, I wouldn't mind that either. When you are a contender you can afford a few luxuries. It's one of the things that makes you a contender.


Oh, that's right. We have absolutely 0% chance of winning in Seattle so we are not a contender.
PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
Montee made it until the 58th pick and him and Melvin are not that different. With McCarthy calling plays and having Rodgers, if there isn't an ILB in the 1st, we could always give Rodgers another receiving option considering how poorly the young guys we have are advancing. I remember some of the complaints when we took Jones and Nelson because of the WR we already had. With this offense it is hard to have enough good WR.


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nerdmann
10 years ago

Montee made it until the 58th pick and him and Melvin are not that different. With McCarthy calling plays and having Rodgers, if there isn't an ILB in the 1st, we could always give Rodgers another receiving option considering how poorly the young guys we have are advancing. I remember some of the complaints when we took Jones and Nelson because of the WR we already had. With this offense it is hard to have enough good WR.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Ted gets WRs in the 2-3 rounds.
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