So I've not had much time to post of late between work and personal travel, so here goes a delayed response.
This coming from a guy that's only source of authority on his position in this thread is a book he otherwise, at best, knows nothing about and, at worst, blatantly ignores.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
If I boil down my opinion and force feed it to you down a tube like you're a goose I'm prepping for foie gras, I'm really saying two things on homosexuality:
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You have a bigoted, utterly baseless, indefensible position.The fact that a material segment of the population in this country holds that same, or a similar opinion, is the only reason why we still deny gay marriage rights or otherwise damage the segment of the US population that is gay; which, damages that segment of the population without any benefit to anyone else in society.[/list]You've asserted--repeatedly--that basically everyone else in history agrees with you. You were given a couple examples that show a different take on the matter. You essentially ignored them. Other than the Abrahamic religions, can you name another religion or culture that was as harsh on homosexuality? I don't get the sense you can or you would've shut this line of questioning up the first time I brought it up.
Secondly, it really doesn't matter if everyone thought this if, at the end of the day, they are all wrong. Again, most everyone once thought the world was flat. That was wrong. Most societies treated women like second class citizens for eons. That was wrong. Societies used to approve of slavery. That was wrong. People used to think the sun orbited the earth. That was wrong. There have been countless times the vast majority of people have been wrong about something. IF your assertion above is correct, this would just be another in that long line of human failures. Thankfully, we usually learn and get better as a species.
Leaving the poor bastards alone? How f*cking daft are you? If you want them left alone, tell the religious right to f*ck off and let them have their marriage rights.
I support them being just as free as everyone else to do as they please. If a gay individual or couple wants to keep that private and not tell anyone. Good for them. If they want to enshrine it in a public ceremony amongst friends and family. Good for them.
In the words of Chris Kluwe: they won't magically turn you into lustful cock monsters. I'm not messing with shit other than your side's insistence on forcing its worldview on everyone else. You can start bitching to me when there is legislation banning Christians from having the right to marry other Christians or adopt children; or movements to allow someone to deny you service for being a Christian. Until then, you're just a petulant child throwing his toys out the pram because you can't get your way at every turn and force your values down everyone else's throats.
Again, you've neither proven this assertion nor is it even relevant. You have nothing.
No, forcing your worldview down someone's throat in an environment where you've been shown to cause psychological damage is not having your heart in the right place; it's being a cunt.
The humor is gone when the person wholeheartedly believes it.
How is your cherry-picking different than mine? Well, I draw no authority from the bible. None. I don't think of it as anything other than a series of fairy tales (and out of respect for the other religious posters here that's where I'll leave it). So when I cite lines from the bible, it's knowing full well you won't agree with them, for the purpose of illustrating how full of shit you are. You, on the other hand, are claiming the bible as an authority for your position, which is ludicrous when you don't buy into half of what's in the rest of it. When you do that, you make it clear it's just an excuse for your bigoted views.
Also, you're constant resorting to bringing up all those other topics is indicative of how little you have to stand on. If you actually had a point to make about homosexuality, you'd f*cking make it.
Finally, I underlined a bit in your last paragraph to spoon feed you one last time: bestiality and pedophilia are rape. You've mentioned them. Repeatedly. They don't have the capacity to consent to sex. This has been explained to you... repeatedly.
Originally Posted by: mi_keys