wpr
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10 years ago

What's really disgraceful is that the Packers have been eliminated from the playoffs already. First team in history. What's the point in continuing? The experts (you all) have already given up on the season. Too bad.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I have not read revery post made this past week. has anyone said the season is over? If so I have not seen it. I have seen people say IF they don't change what they are doing they will not be competitive. They MAY eek out a division title but will lose to one of the big boys yet again. It seems to me that the "everything is fine" gang is the one who over reacts to legitimate concerns expressed by others.

Again, no. Just 3 years ago, they started the season 13-0. Didn't win the Super Bowl that year either. But fact's are not relevant to ranting.

Someday you will probably encounter something that makes being 'sickened by a football team' seem as galactically stupid to you then as it does to me now. I hope you never lose anyone close or have a significant illness or financial ruin. But it might help gain some perspective. Football is just a game.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



Once again you are being over dramatic. While I don't agree with all the nermann says (and I have been on his case as much as the next 10 posters) you are taking him out of context. nermann knows that they were 15-1 in 2011. His comment while somewhat exaggerated did not mean to imply every single season for as long as they have been an organization (He said "always") with no exceptions whatsoever.

Been involved in all three. The team still has issues they need to address irregardless of what I or anyone else has faced in the past or present.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

So, they are going to start 0-9?[aiee]

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



If they come out and shit themselves like they did last Thursday? Probably.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DakotaT
10 years ago

Again, no. Just 3 years ago, they started the season 13-0. Didn't win the Super Bowl that year either. But fact's are not relevant to ranting.

Someday you will probably encounter something that makes being 'sickened by a football team' seem as galactically stupid to you then as it does to me now. I hope you never lose anyone close or have a significant illness or financial ruin. But it might help gain some perspective. Football is just a game.

I am as passionate about the Packers as anyone else. But I can't find it in me to spew the hatred and vitriol that is all too common on this Internet Forum lately. You all have fun with that. I'm taking a sabbatical from listening to the irrational venting on here.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



Good post! The Random Babble section is where we go to vent life's trials and frustrations. When my daughter was sick, I received incredible love from the nameless, faceless brothers and sisters here at PH. It was very helpful.
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10 years ago
by the way nermann I hate having to stick up for you. It is your fault AR was injured last year. I will never forgive you for that. [neener]
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evad04
10 years ago

Again, we all know they'll bounce back. They always completely shit themselves until week 10. That's part of what sickens us.

And no, it's not "just one game." It's been happening for a decade now.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Another nerdmann trope (similar to "lulls" -- sweet ghost of Lombardi you use that word like it's going out of style).

Here's the Pack over the last five years:

2009: 5-4 through Week 10. Finished 11-5.

2010: 6-3 through Week 10 (bye in Week 10). Dropped to 8-6 after loss to New England (without Rodgers that game and second half of Lions game in Week 14). Finished 10-6. Won the Supa Bowl.


2011: Finished 15-1. Only loss came in Week 15 to the Chiefs.

2012: 6-3 through Week 10 (bye in Week 10); 11-5 finish

2013: 5-2 until Rodgers goes down; 8-7-1 finish. Won three of last four games.

You continue to perpetuate this myth that Green Bay is garbage until the home stretch of the season. Hell, the year they won it all they actually lost three of their last six games.

And with regard to "lulls" -- oh the lulls. You'd be hard-pressed to find any offense that sustains excellence throughout a game. Look no further than opening weekend. You have the Steelers, Niners, Bengals, Saints and Broncos all look like they were on their way to routs.

Fact is, it's pretty uncommon for a team to dominate all game long. That's football.

And I'd like to see you actually ground your argument that MM and A-Rod over think the offense and use wildly complicated schemes and formations. I have a good eye for football and a more-than-passing understanding of football concepts. They are a multiple offense, and have been since MM took over -- but they don't exactly jump off the page in terms of being complicated.

To an extent, all NFL offenses are way more complicated than we, the fans, can understand. Option routes, pre-snap defensive alignments and reads, how motion affects what routes are run, etc. But a lot of it isn't as exotic as you think.
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macbob
10 years ago


I think the packers are a good team and can cheer for them. I just can't cheer for them blindly.
I can't cheer being run over by a freight train, and looking forward to seeing that freight train again when we have nothing that can stop it. Even if we go 15-1, we will run into that freight train we can't stop.

Originally Posted by: Cal2GreenBay 



Cal-I don't cheer for the Packers blindly. You can ask my wife, she will confirm that I was NOT happy about our play on Thursday.

But--after the first game of the season--against the defending NFL Champs--in their home stadium--I'm NOT willing to concede that they are a 'freight train we can't stop.'

We got whooped. Humiliated. But it's ONLY ONE GAME. They were better on Thursday, doesn't mean they'll be better if we meet them again in the playoffs.
macbob
10 years ago

That's kind of who Aaron reminded me of this weekend. Jim Everett, moreso.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Hey, at least he doesn't do it 16 games a year (regular season, before idiots jump on me for abandoning the playoffs).
macbob
10 years ago

The issue have, and possibly other "whiners" is after 7 months to prepare, you see the same problems. Another 200 yard rushing performance by an opponent. Middle LBs underwhelming, even Dom said the D Line did a poor job of controlling gaps, tackling was suspect...

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I have no problem with people who weren't happy with our performance Thur. I wasn't happy with our performance either. I felt our coaches did not prepare our players properly for the game, I felt that our coaches did not do a good job of adjusting during the game when it became apparent that the game plan going in wasn't working, I'm concerned with our thinness at OL & DL, and defensive front seven overall and not happy that Ted Thompson did not do a better job of addressing the trenches.

What I have a problem with is declaring the season over, might as well pack up and go home after 1 stinking game. Against the defending NFL champs. In their home stadium.

I guess putting up with bottom-dwelling in the NFL for 20 years (through the 70s and 80s) changes your perspective a little.

Heck, in 2010 it was looking like we were going to miss the playoffs, but I still considered the season a success: in back-to-back weeks, the Cowboys and the Vikings fired their head coaches after being embarrassed by the Pack. That made my season right there. The SB was icing on the cake.

The coaching stuff up above can be addressed. The thinness in the trenches I'm not so confident on. If the personnel can't be addressed adequately, then the coaches are going to have to adjust their game plans to minimize our weak areas and maximize our strengths.
nerdmann
10 years ago

Another nerdmann trope (similar to "lulls" -- sweet ghost of Lombardi you use that word like it's going out of style).

Here's the Pack over the last five years:

2009: 5-4 through Week 10. Finished 11-5.

2010: 6-3 through Week 10 (bye in Week 10). Dropped to 8-6 after loss to New England (without Rodgers that game and second half of Lions game in Week 14). Finished 10-6. Won the Supa Bowl.


2011: Finished 15-1. Only loss came in Week 15 to the Chiefs.

2012: 6-3 through Week 10 (bye in Week 10); 11-5 finish

2013: 5-2 until Rodgers goes down; 8-7-1 finish. Won three of last four games.

You continue to perpetuate this myth that Green Bay is garbage until the home stretch of the season. Hell, the year they won it all they actually lost three of their last six games.

And with regard to "lulls" -- oh the lulls. You'd be hard-pressed to find any offense that sustains excellence throughout a game. Look no further than opening weekend. You have the Steelers, Niners, Bengals, Saints and Broncos all look like they were on their way to routs.

Fact is, it's pretty uncommon for a team to dominate all game long. That's football.

And I'd like to see you actually ground your argument that Mike McCarthy and A-Rod over think the offense and use wildly complicated schemes and formations. I have a good eye for football and a more-than-passing understanding of football concepts. They are a multiple offense, and have been since Mike McCarthy took over -- but they don't exactly jump off the page in terms of being complicated.

To an extent, all NFL offenses are way more complicated than we, the fans, can understand. Option routes, pre-snap defensive alignments and reads, how motion affects what routes are run, etc. But a lot of it isn't as exotic as you think.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



I call them out when they shit themselves, whether they win or not. And I praise them when they deserve it, whether or not they win.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
evad04
10 years ago

I call them out when they shit themselves, whether they win or not. And I praise them when they deserve it, whether or not they win.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Thank you for disregarding the vast majority of my post.
William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
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