DoddPower
11 years ago

The reason being that they play in the weaker AFC

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



If you say so. The AFC may be weaker, but that doesn't mean Denver's not a better team than the Packers.

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11 years ago

Yeah, you should never ever trust bleacher report. It's utter shit.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



When am I going to learn? We just don't play in FA. Ever. I may just tune out until August... at least, that is what I feel like. Every year, get excited for FA, and it turns into a gigantic black hole swirling over northern Wisconsin. Then there is the draft, and how exciting to trade back...

Ayeeeeeeeeeee....[grin1]

Who knows? I just hope Ted makes the best moves that he can for our team and we'll see where the chips fall. Tough to hold out too much hope for 2014, but no one wins championships in March, unless you are John Schneider.
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11 years ago

When am I going to learn? We just don't play in FA. Ever. I may just tune out until August... at least, that is what I feel like. Every year, get excited for FA, and it turns into a gigantic black hole swirling over northern Wisconsin. Then there is the draft, and how exciting to trade back...

Ayeeeeeeeeeee....[grin1]

Who knows? I just hope Ted makes the best moves that he can for our team and we'll see where the chips fall. Tough to hold out too much hope for 2014, but no one wins championships in March, unless you are John Schneider.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Regarding the first week of free agency, why would you get excited about your team over paying for talent and subjecting themselves to salary cap issues down the road?
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11 years ago
This free agency in particular has really turned me off to the idea of grabbing a guy the first day or two. I think almost every single player that went to a new team already was overpaid.
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11 years ago

When am I going to learn? We just don't play in FA. Ever. I may just tune out until August... at least, that is what I feel like. Every year, get excited for FA, and it turns into a gigantic black hole swirling over northern Wisconsin. Then there is the draft, and how exciting to trade back...

Ayeeeeeeeeeee....[grin1]

Who knows? I just hope Ted makes the best moves that he can for our team and we'll see where the chips fall. Tough to hold out too much hope for 2014, but no one wins championships in March, unless you are John Schneider.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Who has also signed 0 outside players this FA period so far.
QCHuskerFan
11 years ago

I got the 3-4 info from the bleacher report. My bad. QCHuskerFan was right, and danreb, so are you.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I would prefer this not get spread around. How about if we just say "QC was not wrong"? Being married for over 20 years, I'm not used to being right...
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

If you say so. The AFC may be weaker, but that doesn't mean Denver's not a better team than the Packers.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



After what happened in the Super Bowl, you say this? Does this mean you would actually expect Denver (or Seattle for that matter) to beat the Packers head to head?

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QCHuskerFan
11 years ago

I agree with the overall point, but I won't be surprised at all if Denver is still playing while the Packers are sitting at home watching TV this post season.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I won't be surprised if Peyton & Co make it farther in the playoffs than the Packers. Possibly the Greatest QB of all time.

But how will you feel if you are John Elway and Peyton goes on IR in Week 6? You go all in to try to win the Super Bowl in 2015, fail, and you will suck for at least 3-4 years after since you have mortgaged the future. I want to win the Super Bowl, but I'm not willing to go through the 70's again.
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11 years ago

Just a hunch. He fits a 3-4 DE perfectly, just what we need. And Trgo was his line coach and DC while in CAR. He knows him well. 7.5 sacks last season and 2 FFs.

That's one piece of the puzzle I would like to see here in GB, even at 34 years old. The guy can still play.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



He only had 81 sacks over an 8 years span playing in CAR's 3-4. Another 38 in 4 years with CHI in their 4-3.

Yeah, he's old, but may be of great service as a situational specialist at DE. Think this guy doesn't want a ring?

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Huh?!?

The Panthers played a 4-3 while Peppers was there.
Peppers has never played in a 4-3 system.

Peppers might fit the prototypical 3-4 DE mold, but the Packers haven't been bring in the prototypical 3-4 DE mold... they're what brought in two guys that are over 6'3"?

And a rumor has it Trgo and Peppers didn't get along while with the Panthers together. I have no idea if that's true or not.


I like the idea of trying Peppers as a pass rushing 3-4 DE (if the price is good for the team). But I don't see it happening.
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11 years ago

That is where they have been playing. Clay at ROLB, Perry at LOLB

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



you are wrong unless you are talking what side of the bench they are sitting on because they are injury prone [boxing]
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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11 years ago

Huh?!?

The Panthers played a 4-3 while Peppers was there.
Peppers has never played in a 4-3 system.

Peppers might fit the prototypical 3-4 DE mold, but the Packers haven't been bring in the prototypical 3-4 DE mold... they're what brought in two guys that are over 6'3"?

And a rumor has it Trgo and Peppers didn't get along while with the Panthers together. I have no idea if that's true or not.


I like the idea of trying Peppers as a pass rushing 3-4 DE (if the price is good for the team). But I don't see it happening.

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Hey beast, yeah, I know. My mistake was already addressed. Took some bad info...
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11 years ago

Who has also signed 0 outside players this FA period so far.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Well last year they traded a pack of gum for Percy Harvin which didn't really help them, but hey.
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Regarding the first week of free agency, why would you get excited about your team over paying for talent and subjecting themselves to salary cap issues down the road?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That is not the point. I want them to spend on quality, even if it means higher figures than we are used to. I don't want them to overpay, at all.

Looking at the attitudes to this notion of signing top talent, not all of them are overpriced. Were Bennet and Avril overpriced last offseason?
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11 years ago

Well last year they traded a pack of gum for Percy Harvin which didn't really help them, but hey.

Originally Posted by: danreb 



Yet he could have been considered Super Bowl MVP...
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11 years ago

Who has also signed 0 outside players this FA period so far.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I was referencing last offseason.
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

you are wrong unless you are talking what side of the bench they are sitting on because they are injury prone [boxing]

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



I guess Packers.com is wrong than also

•The franchise’s top draft choice in 2012, he held the starting role at the LOLB position opposite LB Clay Matthews before succumbing to a wrist injury that ended his rookie season in Week 6
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I guess Packers.com is wrong than also

•The franchise’s top draft choice in 2012, he held the starting role at the LOLB position opposite LB Clay Matthews before succumbing to a wrist injury that ended his rookie season in Week 6

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Pack I was just messing with you but the facts are facts and both Perry and over priced CM3 have both missed alot of games the last 2 years

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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That is not the point. I want them to spend on quality, even if it means higher figures than we are used to. I don't want them to overpay, at all.

Looking at the attitudes to this notion of signing top talent, not all of them are overpriced. Were Bennet and Avril overpriced last offseason?

Originally Posted by: play2win 



T.J. Ward didn't exactly break the bank with his new contract. DeMarcus Ware got a premier deal, but it's still a bit less than what he was due in Dallas.

Not to mention these guys will be playing with leads in Denver.
DoddPower
11 years ago

I won't be surprised if Peyton & Co make it farther in the playoffs than the Packers. Possibly the Greatest QB of all time.

But how will you feel if you are John Elway and Peyton goes on IR in Week 6? You go all in to try to win the Super Bowl in 2015, fail, and you will suck for at least 3-4 years after since you have mortgaged the future. I want to win the Super Bowl, but I'm not willing to go through the 70's again.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I wouldn't feel that bad about it. They are making a run with one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game who is also on his last legs. I don't blame them for doing what they are doing. Just because they may not fully realize their goals doesn't mean they were wrong in pursuing them as they are. What if it works? They still made it to the Super Bowl last year, and had an amazing overall season. Better than the Packers, and are primed to do something similar again this season. It was a good year to be a Broncos fan.

I don't think it's going to set them up for a period like the '70's were for the Packers. Something similar to that could happen regardless if they don't have an elite QB after Manning retires. They could have a ton of cap space, an average at best QB, and still suck. Conversely, if they find another elite QB, they could likely still be a contender even if they are in cap hell for a few seasons. I think cap issues are a little overstated, so long as the team can draft reasonably well. If a team can't draft well, then they probably aren't having much success regardless of their cap space.

The bottom line is, the Broncos realize that they have a very realistic chance at getting to and winning the Super Bowl, and that they only have one or two more chances to do so. After that, their chances will likely decrease substantially, regardless of their cap situation. Chase the gold. Don't be fearless. I imagine it's going to be another great year to be a Broncos fan. The Packers are in a different situation because Rodgers is still in his prime. I would hope the Packers would do the same thing if Rodgers was on his last leg, though. That is, unless they had another Aaron Rodgers waiting in the wings, which hopefully they will (but the odds are certainly against that).
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This free agency in particular has really turned me off to the idea of grabbing a guy the first day or two. I think almost every single player that went to a new team already was overpaid.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



And none of them will help their new teams at all? And certainly none of them will go on to have great success with their new teams? They were all overpaid and they will all cause nothing but harm to their new teams.

Do you think that New Orleans will care how much they paid Byrd if he makes the pro bowl 3 or 4 years in a row. Same with the Bears and Lamar Houston or any one of the teams that overpaid to get those players you do not want. If you think almost every single player signed so far was overpaid that has to include Shields. If you think we overpaid for Shields but we really had no choice then how can you think any of the other signings were bad. Sometimes you really don't have a choice but to overpay a little to get some talent on the team.

Like I said before, I don't think anyone wants Ted to sign the top guy just because he is the top guy but when the top guy fits why not take a shot (Also like I said before we don't really know what shots Ted Thompson has or has not taken)

For the record It doesn't really bother me that Ted Thompson does not jump in and make a big splash early on in free agency but it doesn't have anything to do with overpaying a player. I realize that a lot of these guys will turn out to be nothing special and wouldn't really add a whole lot to the Packers. You see teams losing guys and replacing them with the same type of guys and this is just standing still (I think Texas said something like that) so I am all for signing your own guys who are known quantities within your system. I just don't think it would hurt to take a bit of a risk now and then. Ted Thompson seems perfectly willing to take a risk in the draft with totally unknown NFL quantities why not take a chance on some medium priced talent rather than low priced potential.
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