MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

GREEN BAY — Maybe Matt Flynn will be able to find an opportunity to start elsewhere. But as much as he helped save the Green Bay Packers' season, that's no sure thing.

If he doesn't, the guy who'd be his new quarterbacks coach in Green Bay, Alex Van Pelt, would love to have the unrestricted free agent back as Aaron Rodgers' backup.

Although the Packers like the potential of Scott Tolzien, who is under contract for 2014 and started two games after injuries to Rodgers and veteran Seneca Wallace, Van Pelt — a former backup quarterback in the NFL himself — really liked what he saw from Flynn, who went 2-2 as the starter and had four fourth-quarter rallies in the five games he played.

Flynn rallied the Packers to a 26-26 tie with Minnesota in relief of Tolzien on Nov. 17; engineered come-from-behind one-point victories over Atlanta on Dec. 8 and Dallas on Dec. 15, and also had a fourth-quarter comeback in a loss to Pittsburgh on Dec. 22. He started the season with the Oakland Raiders but was cut Oct. 7, then spent a month with the Buffalo Bills before he was released just in time for the Packers to sign him following Rodgers' collarbone injury.

"I think Matt has a great track record. He's been successful in this system. His understanding of the system is huge," said Van Pelt, who has shifted from running backs coach to quarterbacks coach following Ben McAdoo's departure to become the New York Giants' offensive coordinator last month. "It's very tough to operate as a quarterback in this system with all the flexibility you have to be able to change plays at the line of scrimmage. Having an understanding of the system is huge for him.

"The way he fits in the locker room, especially in the quarterback room. The things he does to get Aaron ready to play on Sundays are little things that are hidden sometimes when you're looking at guys. So I'm excited to hopefully get him back in there."

Flynn, who said he would be open to returning in a late-season interview , completed 102 of 166 passes (61.4 percent) for 1,146 yards with seven touchdowns and four interceptions (86.1 passer rating) in four-plus games. His greatest moment came against the Cowboys, the team he'd grown up watching, as he matched the biggest comeback in franchise history by completing 26 of 39 passes for 299 yards with four TDs and one INT (113.1) to keep the Packers' playoff hopes afloat with a rally from a 26-3 halftime deficit.

Tolzien, meanwhile, was 55 of 90 (61.1 percent) for 717 yards with one touchdown and five interceptions (66.8 rating) and should benefit from an offseason in quarterback school after joining the Packers the week of the regular-season opener after two years in San Francisco.

"I think thought Scott did an exceptional job getting thrown into the mix like he was. He showed some toughness," Van Pelt said. "His ability to lead in the huddle, things like that — that are once again kind of hidden from everybody else — to see how he conducted himself in an adverse situation was positive. I think he also has a skillset where he could be successful. I'm excited once again to get back in that room and get to talking football."

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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
I'd rather have Tolzien with a full off-season and preseason. It seemed like he could throw better and run better than Flynn. He also should be cheaper.
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Laser Gunns
11 years ago

I'd rather have Tolzien with a full off-season and preseason. It seemed like he could throw better and run better than Flynn. He also should be cheaper.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Ditto.

Flynn did not seem like much of an improvement honestly. (1/2 of Dallas' game aside)

As good as he was then, he was equally worse in the 1st half... And the lions game... Uck.

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steveishere
11 years ago
As ugly as Flynn looked at times we did basically go 2-2-1 with him. Despite physical limitations he can run an offense effectively most of the time. With more preparation perhaps Tolzien could but he didn't really show it in his opportunities, he showed he can throw a good ball but not that he could lead an offense. We don't get to see these guys preparation and whatnot so we don't know the potential of a guy like Tolzien but I personally would lean more toward a guy that's proven he can give you a chance if he has to start for a game here and there in Flynn.
buckeyepackfan
11 years ago
I think we fans are going to see something that we didn't see until week 17 of last year.

3-QB's on the 53 man roster with one of them being inactive each week.

That is going to take a spot away from another position, but imho, it is well worth it.

Tolzien is pretty much a lock, unless he absolutely does a Graham Harrell at QB camp, if not Flynn(who would be my 1st choice), then look for The Packers to sign a veteran QB during FA.

I'm pretty sure Ted will find a rookie QB to be put on the PS for the season, actually there is a guy coming out of Ohio State, Kenny Guiton, 5yr senior, backup his last 2 years with plenty of starts due to injuries to Braxton Miller.

A whole lot of fans would have preferred Guiton over Miller as the starter.

He is a better passer than Miller, but Miller had all those intangibles that make a good college qb.

Guiton is just the type of player Mike McCarthy loves to bring in and school, would be a perfect fit in GB. Probably as an undrafted free agent.
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nerdmann
11 years ago
I like them both.

Flynn is a guy who we can rely on to back up Aaron for the rest of his career.

Tolzien is a guy who could be better than Flynn but will likely want to get a shot to start somewhere. Could be the next Hasselbeck.
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El3ment12
11 years ago
Tolzien sure does throw a great ball.....to the other team.
texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
I tend to agree with Buckeye, going with 3 QBs, one inactive each week would be smart. I would hope, however, Flynn would not be one of them - short of him generating absolutely no interest and coming back for a vet minimum contract. Even then, I would hope he was behind Tolzien, and I would prefer some prospect for the 3rd guy - Guyton is a reasonable suggestion, but there probably are a lot of others coming out this year too.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

Tolzien sure does throw a great ball.....to the other team.

Originally Posted by: El3ment12 



Look at his stats throwing mid to deep. He looked very good.

PROBLEM: Mike's "polish football" philosophy kept him throwing short, which was so predictable that Jason Pierre Paul called out that play in the defensive huddle, before he pick six'd it.

I think Tolzien did great, under the circumstances. He's just gonna get better. From what I've read of him he's big on preparation, learning. He's not the type of guy to pull a BJ Coleman.
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steveishere
11 years ago

Look at his stats throwing mid to deep. He looked very good.

PROBLEM: Mike's "polish football" philosophy kept him throwing short, which was so predictable that Jason Pierre Paul called out that play in the defensive huddle, before he pick six'd it.

I think Tolzien did great, under the circumstances. He's just gonna get better. From what I've read of him he's big on preparation, learning. He's not the type of guy to pull a BJ Coleman.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



BJ Coleman was big on preparation and learning too. Tolzien threw pretty passes but he couldn't consistently and effectively run the offense like Flynn could. He may improve in that with the offseason but based on what he showed we really have no clue if he'll ever get it.
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