steveishere
11 years ago

It seems to me that Mike and Aaron are obsessed with breaking Favre's records. They want YARDS. They want chunks of yards, and they want to score fast, so they have more opportunities to get more yards.

They've been playing more fundamentally sound of late, though.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That doesn't really explain why the last few years Aaron has only been 14th 16th and 10th in pass attempts.
steveishere
11 years ago
How about this compared to "dink and dunkers" Tom Brady and Drew Brees last year

Passes thrown 10 or less yards from the line of scrimmage:

Drew Brees 67%
Aaron Rodgers 68.5%
Tom Brady 69%

The Packers under McCarthy/Rodgers throw most of their passes short they also throw a fair amount of deep passes but it looks like they throw deep more often because Rodgers is so efficient at it. Relatively speaking when he goes deep Rodgers rarely misses.

It isn't "stat-whoring" it's called "winning"
wpr
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11 years ago

Well, he could stop passing up open guys underneath in order to throw deep. In doing so, he could stop holding the ball for 8 seconds.

He could develop a willingness to throw Hail Marys at the end of the half, risking an INT on his stat sheet. sh!t like that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



no because throwing deep when the play isn't open would be stat whoring. By your own admission Aaron is not a stat whore.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

I tried to make you see what a dumbass statement you are making in stat-whoring, but of course YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE HARD NUMBERS.

Glad I don't live in your world.

Really has to be a scary place at times.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Your attempt really only supported my own position.

So yeah, I'll take the hard numbers. lol
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nerdmann
11 years ago

That doesn't really explain why the last few years Aaron has only been 14th 16th and 10th in pass attempts.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



We're a good team, so we're not in a position of having to pass in order to try to come back late in games.

And anyway, Aaron's not really known for his comebacks, is he? lol
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nerdmann
11 years ago

no because throwing deep when the play isn't open would be stat whoring. By your own admission Aaron is not a stat whore.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



He'll throw the ball up, just not when it's an end of half situation.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
steveishere
11 years ago

We're a good team, so we're not in a position of having to pass in order to try to come back late in games.

And anyway, Aaron's not really known for his comebacks, is he? lol

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I feel like the best opportunity to "stat whore" would be if you had a big lead late in the game. You can rack up a ton of yards/points with no risk to winning or losing the game. Doesn't make sense for them to pass up that opportunity.
nerdmann
11 years ago

I feel like the best opportunity to "stat whore" would be if you had a big lead late in the game. You can rack up a ton of yards/points with no risk to winning or losing the game. Doesn't make sense for them to pass up that opportunity.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I think they tend to do it more earlier in the season. Later in the season they do focus more on playoff contention.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
steveishere
11 years ago

I think they tend to do it more earlier in the season. Later in the season they do focus more on playoff contention.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



What does that even mean? Rodgers pass attempts are typically low for a franchise QB and you say it's because he doesn't pass much late in games which is a prime opportunity to rack up stats. Your argument doesn't hold water. Are you going to give us anything that backs up what you think or just keep spewing this nonsense that has no factual basis?

With how much you act like this is happening you'd think it would be a fairly easy thing for you to point out and prove but so far you've got NOTHING. Come on man show us all of this stat whoring that's going on.
play2win
11 years ago



Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!!!
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