MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

The Packers have been at or near the top of the NFL for four years running, and there's every reason to believe that they'll remain at or near the top of the NFL this year. That's the ultimate takeaway from our preseason look at the Packers: They're the clear favorites to win the NFC North...

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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
7 teams better than the Packers? NO WAY!!

Honestly, I can't see even one team that should rank ahead of the Packers, but I suppose you gotta put the Niners up there until we knock them off. Who else is even close? Ravens? Come On! Seattle? One illegitimate win at their place doesn't cut it.

Bottom line is the Packers were top 5, maybe top 3 last year, and they should be much improved this year.
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OlHoss1884
11 years ago
My post on PFT: "I am not sure why people keep using the term “terrible defense” when the were riddled with injuries last year and STILL finished 11th. Although the difference in the quality of the teams in the top 10 in minimal, I would still rank them ahead of most of the rest. Atlanta has no pas rush and a poor secondary, Seattle’s pass rush will be weak this year and they STILL don’t have a good receiving corps, Cincinnati doesn’t have much of a running game, has only an above average QB and only 1 outside weapon. NE’s OL is suspect as is their receiving corps and secondary and their pass rush is average. I would rank only SF, Den and Balt higher."

The Ravens O-Line will not be as good but their defense will be better. While they will miss Boldin, they will have their OC for the whole offseason/season this year so I expect them to be very good again. They and SF are the only teams on the schedule that really worry me and if I am not mistaken, we get Baltimore at home this year.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

My post on PFT: "I am not sure why people keep using the term “terrible defense” when the were riddled with injuries last year and STILL finished 11th. Although the difference in the quality of the teams in the top 10 in minimal, I would still rank them ahead of most of the rest. Atlanta has no pas rush and a poor secondary, Seattle’s pass rush will be weak this year and they STILL don’t have a good receiving corps, Cincinnati doesn’t have much of a running game, has only an above average QB and only 1 outside weapon. NE’s OL is suspect as is their receiving corps and secondary and their pass rush is average. I would rank only SF, Den and Balt higher."

The Ravens O-Line will not be as good but their defense will be better. While they will miss Boldin, they will have their OC for the whole offseason/season this year so I expect them to be very good again. They and SF are the only teams on the schedule that really worry me and if I am not mistaken, we get Baltimore at home this year.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



We had injuries, plus the defense is repeatedly hung out to dry by the offensive offensive philosophy.

And I agree. We have to prove we can beat the Niners, but none of these other teams even scare me. Can't wait to break Seattle down like we did the Falcons in the '10 playoffs.
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DakotaT
11 years ago
8 seems about right for me. We have a huge question mark with the offensive line, counting on rookie running backs, still no proven answer at the second OLB position and our inside linebackers are mediocre at best. Yes, we do have the best player in the NFL and a very good receiving corps, but there is a lot more to winning football games.

Besides, I like being the underdog, it makes winning that much sweeter.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
I had posted on PFT but it appears to have been removed.

Anyhow, I had noted my surprise that the OL swap of RT to LT and RG to LG weren't mentioned as I think that's the biggest difference from 2012 to 2013. I think that decision will make or break the Packers this season.
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agopackgo4
11 years ago
Off the top of my head I would put the Packers third in the NFC.
1. 49ers
2. Seahawks
3. Packers.

That doesn't mean that's how I think it will finish up. But that's how I see it to start things off.
There is NO WAY in hell I would put the Falcons ahead of the Pack though.
nerdmann
11 years ago
I bet Aaron uses this for motivation!
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beast
11 years ago

My post on PFT: "I am not sure why people keep using the term “terrible defense” when the were riddled with injuries last year and STILL finished 11th.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



Because the Packers offense and QB combine to make such interest that the defense gets over shadowed and therefore over looked.

Another example would be the Packers last to Super Bowl victory runs, I believe they were ranked #1 one of those years and #2 the other, yet the offenses gets a lot more of the credit for what ever the reason.

QBs often get teams into the playoffs, but defenses are the ones who win the Championships.

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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Bengals came in at number 6.
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