There's only 1 person to blame for this whole sham.

The guy who had a chance to get rid of both Hawk and Jones, but instead decided to resign them.

THAT MAN OF COURSE IS TED THOMPSON!!!

Time for Hawk, Jones and Ted Thompson to move on!!!

Hell I'm sayin' it right now, Ted Thompson cost The Packers 2 more SB rings because he had to resign his boys.

The only reason The Packers lost in the playoff the last 2 years was because A. J. Hawk and Brad Jones were on the field!!!

TIME FOR TED THOMPSON TO GO!!!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

Indeed. To correct him, we already - got - the wind knocked out of us. For two years running.

AJ Hawk and Brad Jones are less good and more bad for the middle of our defense.

Hawk has been absolutely abysmal in pass coverage, making his other good attributes in calling our D and making tackles nearly null and void.

Brad Jones -should- be good in pass coverage being 6-3, but he is anything but good. Add to that some lack of instincts in the middle, or should I say, as a linebacker, and I'm still in shock that this player received a contract. Brad Jones was drafted as an edge pass rusher. He offered little more.

Our only hope is Bishop returning to form, and the possibility of one of Manning, Boddington or Mulumba outperforming Hawk and Jones, favorites of this organization.

Originally Posted by: play2win 

The only problem with your only hope is that Bishop is horrible in pass coverage. He was MUCH worse than Hawk.

In 2011 the only one worse on the team was Williams. Who was playing with one arm.

The Packers allowed the 4th lowest passer rating in the league in 2012. It was an improvement over 2011.

With Bishop in, our D will be more vulnerable to the pass up the middle. Like when Bishop was getting lit up against the Chargers.

The only problem I see with Hawk is that people don't like him. So they want him to suck.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 

I disagree with your last statement. I like him just fine. He is a sound tackler and seems a great team leader calling our D. But, you have to ask yourself if he's lost something in coverage when you look at the games and look at his stats. If you don't, how is that objective?

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Immensely better? Wow. Maybe you should look them up.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4403/desmond-bishop 

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3629/aj-hawk 

Hardly.

In fairness, they both had good 2010 seasons in coverage. And they both suffered from zero pass rush from the DL since.

My concerns with both players is a loss of speed. Bishop won't be faster after tearing his Achilles, and Hawk won't be faster in his 9th season. I hope both can improve this year.

Originally Posted by: play2win 

The little I have seen or heard about Manning seems like he is kinda a soft finesse player - a less experienced Brad Jones.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 

I know these comments to be complete sarcasm, but when will you get off your AJ Hawk Buckeye Homer Man Love? It's really quite sickening.

buckeye, you make it so that no one can have a reasonable conversation with you about AJ Hawk with these kinds of statements. I wish that weren't so, because I think you have way more to offer these discussions as a fan of the Packers.

Hawk was good in the middle 3 seasons ago. He was horrible in pass coverage in 2011 and 2012. That makes him a liability with faster, more athletic TEs to defend. No?

Originally Posted by: play2win