Why the Packers will franchise Greg Jennings· Page 4

doddpower
Veteran Member

12 years ago

Yeah, it seems very unlikely that Jennings will be a Packer in 2013. As others have said, he's simply more valuable to other teams than he is the Packers, even if he isn't quite as valuable as he thinks. I really can't imagine some other team not offering him more than the Packers would. Actually, since the Bengals have so much cap space ($55 million that one article said), that could be a great location for him. AJ Green, Jennings, and Gresham would be a nice receiving core. Although, Red Dalton is not a championship QB. However, they would be "contenders," in theory. The Texans, Patriots, Dolphins, Vikings, Bears, etc. etc. etc. could all use a guy like that, and many could find a way to afford him. It will be interesting to see how it works out, but I don't see him as a Packer in 2013. The guy does seem to get open a lot, though.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

#32

I've finally realized the best way to argue with you is to give you my opinion (which in time you'll learn to take as a fact 🤔 ) and then let you do all the work to prove my opinion right. This way you don't get mad at me, I don't have to get frustrated with you, and we're all happy!

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

The fact that you spout off so much, with no factual support is why I have difficulty trusting your comments. You shout your opinion as gospel, as fact and no other opinion is relevant that differs from yours. How many times have you cited a source to backup your opinions stated as facts? When have you taken the time to research an opinion of yours to find factual proof to support your intuition?

I know what I do not know. You slack that department. :)

That's not to say I don't enjoy your comments, because I do. I just don't put much trust into them being factually accurate, lol.

The Texans, Patriots, Dolphins, Vikings, Bears, etc. etc. etc. could all use a guy like that, and many could find a way to afford him. It will be interesting to see how it works out, but I don't see him as a Packer in 2013. The guy does seem to get open a lot, though.

Originally Posted by: doddpower

Anyone could find a way to fit him into their salary, the question is, what is the trade off and is the trade off worth it? Mathematically, I was thinking it would be fine considering his 2012 salary and the Donald Driver salary basically combine to equal the franchise tender. When reading his comments on being franchised, I had to discard my theory. Sure, not many players like the tag, but I've noticed Jennings being a lot more vocal this season than in years past. I could envision that being an issue.

So, after thinking more into it, I'd rather that tag cash of say $10 million allocated to some of our soon to be free agents to be after the 2013 season.

play2win
Senior Member

12 years ago

#33

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I'm a little surprised by that, but it is understandable. I'm on the fence, and would rather fit him into our cap than see him in a Bear or Viking uniform. That's for sure. MIA, CIN and the like I don't care too much about, but I'd hate to see him with a division rival. Maybe the only way to guard against that is the tag.

I do agree his attitude seemed different this last year. And, not in a good way.

play2win
Senior Member

12 years ago

#34

His attitude lately is what has gotten to me as a fan and honestly now, I think he is toying with the fans. Just my opinion but taking a picture of your empty locker and asking fans to "like" it if you want him to stay or "comment" if you want him to play for another team is dumb. I believe a lot of his latest actions show he wants to have a fresh start somewhere and be THE GUY of that team. I was upset about the possibility of him going to another team before but when he doesn't want to be on the team I watch and like, it makes it a little easier to deal with his departure as a fan.

Originally Posted by: Yerko

Yerko, thanks for the info & links. I didn't go far enough back in the comments before my last post, but yeah, makes more sense now. Really unfortunate. Kind of confirms his actions. Let him walk.

doddpower
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#35

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yeah, I understand any team COULD. But it would obviously be easier for a team like the Bengals who have large amounts of cap space available vs. a team like the Packers who have some space, but also have some huge money contracts coming up. Given the Packers current cap situation, other teams situations and needs at WR, and Jennings change in attitude, I just can't see him coming back. Let's be honest, if you were a Bengals, Dolphins, or almost any other team that could reasonably afford Jennings without losing anyone else, who wouldn't want him? I know if I was a fan of those teams I would want/expect "my" team to make an effort to sign him. He can still be a very effective player and a #1 WR, or elite #2, at worse. I hope Jennings finds what he is looking for. Unfortunately for all parties involved, I just don't think it's with the Packers. It happens. Hopefully the Packers are awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick for losing him though.

DakotaT
Select Member

12 years ago

#36

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Well to quote Digs, Zero you wouldn't know a pigskin from a foreskin. So I'm suppose to bow down to your research? Screw that! I wasn't wrong on DD because I watched his decline to eventual suckage that we paid close to $2 million for this year. Yet everyone told me how wrong I was. We cut him two years too late - FACT, only you heard from me a long time ago. What else you have little boy? [grin1]

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

#37

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

lol I never want anyone to bow to me, or my research, son. Who's talking about Donald Driver? Why do you keep beating that drum when you're the only one talking about him in a Greg Jennings thread? lol ... senile bastid! 😛 What you got on Greg Jennings, anything, huh? Yea....

DakotaT
Select Member

12 years ago

#38

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I've already told you, but since you dismiss anything without research... [grin1]

We should make an effort to sign Greg to a three year deal. If he balks, then let him walk. Since you already flip flopped - your research and opinion have the credibility of Romney. I think we'll be seeing Nelson and Jones outside and Cobb and a rookie in the slot. Greg's toast. Fact. 😳

dfosterf
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#39

We have to husband our resources to pay Aaron Rodgers.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

#40

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Let me get this straight. If I ignorantly ignore further information about a subject, I'm a stubborn unreasonable ass. However, if I am reasonable and re-evaluate a theory after more information has been introduced, I'm a flip-flopper with no credibility? It's like communicating with a woman! Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't!!

I'd like to see him here, if he wanted to be here. After reading his comments and listening to some of his recent interviews, I think mentally he's closed the door on the Packers chapter of his career and wants to move on.

I could see Jordy Nelson and James Jones starting, with Randall Cobb playing slot.

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dfosterf (17h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (17h) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (18h) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (18h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (18h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (18h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (18h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (18h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (18h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (18h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (18h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (18h) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (18h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (18h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (19h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

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dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.

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dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation

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