When I say I don't feel we civilians need to possess any assault rifles, I was speaking more about the weapons that you pull the trigger and 30 shots ring out in seconds.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Automatic weapons are already illegal, so you don't need any new laws.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

I personally know alot of hunters that use semi automatic rifles when they hunt. They are easier to use, as you can shoot and not have to do anything to get another round into the barrel.
I myself use a lever action rifle, and can shoot almost as fast as a semi auto, as i have been using it for over 30 years.
It becomes a natural movement to reload when you practice with it.

Automatic weapons are already illegal, so you don't need any new laws. If someone is already breaking laws that are there now, what makes anyone think that criminals will suddenly follow NEW laws?
Answer: They won't. That's why they are bad people. They don't care about ANY laws.
Stricter enforcement and harsher penalties is what is needed to stop bad people. Not new laws that have no more "teeth" then the current ones.
Drunk driving is illegal, but doesn't stop the drunks. Harsher penalties if you are caught drunk driving might stop some people. Some though, as you already know, will do it anyway. You see people caught for 6 and 7 or more times drunk driving. Some just don't care and the only way is to incarcerate them, same as they should do for those using guns to commit crimes.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

Ive commented on thid forum in the past about gun control and talked to others about it also.

The big issue is this - I feel like I'd like a gun and feel Id be sane to only use it when needed (to get rid of unwanted trash (j/k)) - but the problem is there are people out there that you cant trust with such a weapon - actually quite a bit.

So Id rather have laws that severely limit the amount of guns in the US then have them become so rampant that kids in school need metal detectors because they never know whom might bring one. Let alone outside people going to schools and shooting people.

The whole argument about people kill people and guns dont ... sure but crazy, mad, upset, irrational, depressed, curious, people do it also and guns make it alot easier.

me and my wife are thinking about moving back to the states and to be honest all the deaths and even seeing signs around at the bars in wisconsin about no concealed carry etc worries me. Heck my wife grew up in northern ireland and is really opposed to guns.

I honestly wonder how many people (children, adults, parents, friends etc) must die to shootings before change takes effect.

After living in london for the past 5 years I really feel the states should adapt much more control - perhaps not as strict as the UK but much more then there is ...

(not that the UK is perfect but some things are IMO better)

Originally Posted by: Dulak 

See, here lies the problem. You can "outlaw" guns all you want. But that does NOTHING to keep them out of the hands of those that you SHOULD be afraid of having guns, meaning, the bad people.
They already don't abide by the rules/laws, so more laws is the answer?
I don't understand why people don't understand that concept.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

Edit: And having a gun to protect yourself when anyone tries to kill you won't work out either. If you only have a gun to protect yourself, it'll be your first shot in your life. Guess who's more experienced and therefore quicker, you or the guy who want to shoot you?

Originally Posted by: GermanGilbert