US Today Poll on Gun Ownership· Page 7

musccy
Veteran Member

12 years ago

Porforis, then we put trained armed guards in each school.
That would greatly lower any possible violent crime.
Yes, it would cost. But if saving kids means taking away some music or sports activity to pay for it, which is more important?
It could be done, and it would work.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Didn't Walker just cut 2.6 billion from public education and prohibit communities from voting to raise taxes to counter his attack on public education? Sports, support staff, and fine arts programs are already being being removed left and right. Should we just limit ourselves to 2 of the 3 Rs? Maybe we just homeschool everyone?

DakotaT
Select Member

12 years ago

#62

Originally Posted by: musccy

Whatever it takes so that wealthy men with weak backs, cold hearts, and no consciences can avoid paying taxes.

Porforis
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#63

When you are talkig about someone that is 100% proven guilty of a crime like this, should they NOT have their life taken away?
I'm a conservative......yet if someone breaks into my home, and threatens me or my wife, am i supposed to just let them do whatever they want? Should i NOT shoot them if they try to attack because i'm a conservative?

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

There's a huge, massive difference between you taking a life in self-defense and taking a life after you have arrested a person, put them in cuffs, and they are no longer a danger to anybody. Yes, they can be violent in prison - Then throw them in solitary. But granting government the ultimate right to determine who lives and who dies is far from a conservative stance.

Conservatives go off to war to protect our country. Should they not do that either? After all, it may mean killing someone.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Liberals do too, and that's a lot trickier subject we'd no doubt go on for pages and pages for. The only thing I'm addressing is the suggestion that we should just execute someone that commits any crime with possession of a gun.

Furthermore, how far do we take such a law (not that you were the one to suggest it)? If someone's legally carrying a firearm via concealed carry and gets into an altercation with someone but never touches the gun, should he be killed? What if he starts a fight out of his own stupidity, is getting his head pounded in, and pulls a gun to end the fight before his brains are splattered over the pavement? Does killing someone in either of these circumstances seem reasonable and just?

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

#64

Fox News?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

nope. WIFR.

Porforis
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#65

I think all that is being asked for by concerened citizens is that automatic weapons are eliminated, yet right away all the freaks come out with their rhetoric about doing away with the 2nd ammendment. It's this over-reaction and refusal for a discussion that irritates me, and it is the same thing with the need to raise our current taxes.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Yeah, that's all that's being asked, right? Eliminating automatic weapons? Gee whiz, here I thought everyone that mattered (President Obama, congressional Democrats) wanted to reinstate the federal assault weapons ban which would regulate everything from a folding or telescoping stock to a pistol grip, barrel shroud, threaded barrel, semi-auto pistols that weigh more than 50oz when unloaded.

Gee whiz, I guess I've just been silly. Here they just wanted to take machine guns away from private citizens.

DakotaT
Select Member

12 years ago

#66

nope. WIFR.

Originally Posted by: wpr

[wtf]

Don't know that acronym.

Wade
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#67

nope. WIFR.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Er, what does WIFR stand for?

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

DakotaT
Select Member

12 years ago

#68

Originally Posted by: Porforis

Maybe I have more reading to do. [grin1]

musccy
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#69

http://www.wifr.com/ Rockford's CBS afiliate?

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

#70

Er, what does WIFR stand for?

Originally Posted by: Wade

It doesn't stand for anything. That's the call letters assigned by the FCC to the CBS station in Rockford.

But I understand your confusion. My wife was actually watching the ABC station WTVO at the time.

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