Gaycandybacon
12 years ago

Completely agreed. He is a fun loving type.. but exactly he has no filter. So, in effect, what I am saying is talk about things outside of the locker room. Hell talk about anything other than the relationships within the locker room. Especially after his dumbass agent stepped in shit a couple weeks ago.

He talks a ton.. so be it. He just needs to choose his topics with more care. IMO.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I agree to the fact that the media and fans make excuses when players talk more than others. Like they made it a big deal when Rodgers called out the rookies on the radio. Who the fuck cares?! First they question the guys leadership, now this?

It's like everyone is making Finley out to be Ochocinco esk.... Fucking ridiculous.... You don't see Finley knocking his wife upside the head.

I've seen Finleys off the field stuff and wheather people agree or not he is a great guy and a family person just like everyone in the Packers locker room.
zombieslayer
12 years ago
It would be in Finley's best interest if he chooses to remain a Packer to fire his agent and hire a different one.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

James Jones over the last couple years droped balls and they still brought him back last year. Why not give Finley a chance? Obviously Jones is making most of his oppurtunity this year. Who's to say Finley can't rebound in a young 2012 season? No ones lobbying to get JJ out anymore are they?

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



I was understanding of Finley's drops last season. I said over and over, he didn't have a problem with drops previously, so perhaps its a focus thing that he's worried about contract and showing coach he can play 16 games. He played 16. He got a contract. YET THE DROPS CONTINUE! And yet when making a 12 yard catch on 2nd down while losing he show boats?? He's costing something like $8 million!

James Jones, I was very understanding with him too, many here wanted him cut or traded for a bag of k-balls. I supported him because he's one of my favorite WR to watch MAKE the catch. He has soft hands. His problem as I mentioned and he later acknowledged publicly, he has a problem with over the shoulder passes.

2011 only one WR had more drops than James Jones (6), and that was Donald Driver (8).


Finley is from Houston, if he doesn't have a breakout game here ... I don't think he will. He's a matchup nightmare, but if you can't catch the ball, what's the point?
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Gaycandybacon
12 years ago

I was understanding of Finley's drops last season. I said over and over, he didn't have a problem with drops previously, so perhaps its a focus thing that he's worried about contract and showing coach he can play 16 games. He played 16. He got a contract. YET THE DROPS CONTINUE! And yet when making a 12 yard catch on 2nd down while losing he show boats?? He's costing something like $8 million!

James Jones, I was very understanding with him too, many here wanted him cut or traded for a bag of k-balls. I supported him because he's one of my favorite WR to watch MAKE the catch. He has soft hands. His problem as I mentioned and he later acknowledged publicly, he has a problem with over the shoulder passes.

2011 only one WR had more drops than James Jones (6), and that was Donald Driver (8).


Finley is from Houston, if he doesn't have a breakout game here ... I don't think he will. He's a matchup nightmare, but if you can't catch the ball, what's the point?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



So you think he droped balls to prevent injurys?

And about the show boating thing... cmon who doesn't get pumped over first downs? So he points his arm out foward after a play big woop...it's not like we were losing the game..
Rockmolder
12 years ago
He's one of those guys that'll never reach his full potential. I think it's better to just cut your losses now and get it over with. Maybe it'll flip a switch in his head which makes him succesful with his next team or he'll just jump from team to team and sizzle out.

Either way, letting him go after this year would be in our best interest.

Fuck you, Jermichael. Fuck you and your trivia contests.
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

So you think he droped balls to prevent injurys?

And about the show boating thing... cmon who doesn't get pumped over first downs? So he points his arm out foward after a play big woop...it's not like we were losing the game..

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



See what you did there? Putting words in my mouth. 🙂 I'm saying worrying about contract and worrying about showing coach he can play 16 games knocked his focus out of whack. I think I need to copy/paste that statement cuz I seem to be typing it a lot, lol.

I don't think he's afraid to get hit.


Being excited and showing excitement is great, when it's earned. When you dropped a 3rd down pass that would have been a first down and later catch a 2nd down pass for a first down ... you don't showboat you're losing, you just don't do that. Since you like twisting my words around here, to be clear, I'm not saying to trade/drop him because of showboating. I just don't feel his production equals his contract and with other important players like Clay Matthews III and Aaron Rodgers need money, I'd rather see it go to them.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

He's one of those guys that'll never reach his full potential. I think it's better to just cut your losses now and get it over with. Maybe it'll flip a switch in his head which makes him succesful with his next team or he'll just jump from team to team and sizzle out.

Either way, letting him go after this year would be in our best interest.

Fuck you, Jermichael. Fuck you and your trivia contests.

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I take it Finley never gave you your glove.
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Gaycandybacon
12 years ago

See what you did there? Putting words in my mouth. 🙂 I'm saying worrying about contract and worrying about showing coach he can play 16 games knocked his focus out of whack. I think I need to copy/paste that statement cuz I seem to be typing it a lot, lol. i'd

I don't think he's afraid to get hit.


Being excited and showing excitement is great, when it's earned. When you dropped a 3rd down pass that would have been a first down and later catch a 2nd down pass for a first down ... you don't showboat you're losing, you just don't do that. Since you like twisting my words around here, to be clear, I'm not saying to trade/drop him because of showboating. I just don't feel his production equals his contract and with other important players like Clay Matthews III and Aaron Rodgers need money, I'd rather see it go to them.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I agree he made key drops that leads to losing. But I meant when he showboats it's not when we're losing. At least from what I've seen. I also agree that he gets to much of payday. When the likes of other players are on their last year of their contracts. And include Greg to that list. WHICH I'd keep him 10 times over Finley. Even baring Injurys.
Zero2Cool
12 years ago
You're right, showing excitement even when losing can be good because it can get guys riled up and get the adrenaline going. What I have an issue with is when YOU could have prevented the team from falling behind or tacking on points by catching that 3rd down pass and then showboat on a catch later that is essentially unimportant to the outcome of the game ... that just doesn't seem right to me.


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TimeToThink
12 years ago
Finley talks a bigger game than he's ever shown.

Guy has all the physical talent in the world. He just doesn't have that intangible quality. And he not-so-subtly blames everything and everyone but himself, which is the difference between him and players like Driver, Jennings and Nelson. When they play bad, they don't slyly point the finger at their QB.

I'm over him. And I can only hope MM and Ted Thompson are over him, too.
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