porky88
12 years ago
It is true. Rodgers and the Packers don't play well in tight games. They tend to find ways to shoot themselves in the foot. Rodgers, specifically, has struggled to put the team over the top. He's had two legitimate moments. The throw to Greg Jennings in the '09 opener versus Chicago and last year's drive at New York.

With that said, I think the comebacks will come. Rodgers is too good not to notch several come from behind victories in his career. In addition, most of his opportunities have come in '08 and '09, which were his first two seasons as a starting quarterback, though they did falter early on in ‘10 as well. The Washington and Miami games were especially frustrating.
nerdmann
12 years ago

It is true. Rodgers and the Packers don't play well in tight games. They tend to find ways to shoot themselves in the foot. Rodgers, specifically, has struggled to put the team over the top. He's had two legitimate moments. The throw to Greg Jennings in the '09 opener versus Chicago and last year's drive at New York.

With that said, I think the comebacks will come. Rodgers is too good not to notch several come from behind victories in his career. In addition, most of his opportunities have come in '08 and '09, which were his first two seasons as a starting quarterback, though they did falter early on in ‘10 as well. The Washington and Miami games were especially frustrating.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



To me, Mike McCarthy has a problem getting the team psychologically/emotionally/mentally ready for games. They have a tendency to start ugly and to falter until week 10.

But if you look at the history, it's not Arodge that has cost us in crunch time, it's almost always the defense. In '10 the defense came up big in a number of games, with game clinching INTs. But if we look at these actual close games that we lost, it's generally on the defense. In fact that's why they shitcanned Bob Sanders and went out and hired Dom Capers instead.
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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
Having no pass rush hurts tremendeously when a team is trying to hold a lead with a couple of minutes left. Hopefully, we've brought players in that can, working with past players, remedy that.
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Rios39
12 years ago

It is true. Rodgers and the Packers don't play well in tight games. They tend to find ways to shoot themselves in the foot. Rodgers, specifically, has struggled to put the team over the top. He's had two legitimate moments. The throw to Greg Jennings in the '09 opener versus Chicago and last year's drive at New York.

With that said, I think the comebacks will come. Rodgers is too good not to notch several come from behind victories in his career. In addition, most of his opportunities have come in '08 and '09, which were his first two seasons as a starting quarterback, though they did falter early on in ‘10 as well. The Washington and Miami games were especially frustrating.

Originally Posted by: porky88 




Also to tie against the Dolphins with no time left and needed a 4th down conversion to save the game. Went to OT. We went 3 and out however in OT. But that happens to a lot of teams in OT and we couldn't make the stop.

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DakotaT
12 years ago
If we are able to put a top 15 defense on the field, I don't think anyone can touch us. I call BS on the being punched in the face theory. You don't win three playoff games on the road, then dominate a bully in the super bowl and be accused of being pussies. The day Nick Collins was carted off the field - we were exposed.

What we continue to have a problem with is stepping on necks. I understand it is not exactly wise to do that to your division opponents, but everybody else should be fair game. Like him or loathe him, but Ced Benson is going to help us grind out the fourth quarter this year.
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Rios39
12 years ago
I'm more worried about our run blocking. The reason we are below average at 3rd and 4th and short is cause our O Line has not done a good job at all at pushing the pile or opening lanes. If we open the lanes or push the pile Benson and Kuhn will land forward.

My concern is the run blocking..looked better last game and we saw decent results.
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blueleopard
12 years ago
McCarthy was trying to input a system since joining, and now I believe it's finally in place.

It relies on the players.

With a 2:00 drive down by 6, I'd still rather have Favre on my team than Rodgers.

In our Super Bowl year, especially towards the end, Rodgers was never able to sustain drives long enough. We had to cross our fingers and put our defense on the field. And they responded.

Unfortunately last year, the defense decided to tank and put the offense on the field. And our only two losses were the ones that hurt the most.

So I'd say I agree. The Packers lack true identity when crunch time actually matters, and until we see some consistency (which would only happen if we were pushed against the wall every week), we won't know. Teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers and New York Giants were built for clutch opportunities. We were built to dominate.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

McCarthy was trying to input a system since joining, and now I believe it's finally in place.

It relies on the players.

With a 2:00 drive down by 6, I'd still rather have Favre on my team than Rodgers.

In our Super Bowl year, especially towards the end, Rodgers was never able to sustain drives long enough. We had to cross our fingers and put our defense on the field. And they responded.

Unfortunately last year, the defense decided to tank and put the offense on the field. And our only two losses were the ones that hurt the most.

So I'd say I agree. The Packers lack true identity when crunch time actually matters, and until we see some consistency (which would only happen if we were pushed against the wall every week), we won't know. Teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers and New York Giants were built for clutch opportunities. We were built to dominate.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



The Packers weren't exactly clutch with Brent at the helm either. Remember 2007?

THAT was on the QB.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

The Packers weren't exactly clutch with Brent at the helm either. Remember 2007?

THAT was on the QB.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



QB's last started for the Packers were either Brett, Aaron or Matt. Prior to that was a fella named Don. You might wanna brush up on your facts about "Brent". 😳
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porky88
12 years ago

The Packers weren't exactly clutch with Brent at the helm either. Remember 2007?

THAT was on the QB.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I also remember clutch TD passes against San Diego, Denver, and Kansas City. That's just from one season.
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