macbob
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14 years ago
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/15/a-j-hawks-contract-is-guaranteed-on-first-day-of-league-year/ 

In a normal year, the Packers and linebacker A.J. Hawk would have to come up with a new contract in the next few weeks or the team would have to cut him.

This is not a normal year, of course.

Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel notes that Hawks unmanageable $10 million base salary is guaranteed on the first day of the new league year. Thats supposed to be March 4, but will likely be delayed.

It will be telling to see if the Packers try to address the issue before a potential work stoppage. If they dont, its a sign that teams are confident there will be some sort of buffer period after the next CBA is signed, whenever it is signed. (The Saints similarly arent expected to re-negotiate Reggie Bushs deal pre-CBA.)

Think about it: If a new CBA is signed, the league year could theoretically start the next day. The Packers would have to cut Hawk or strike an immediate deal to avoid making his salary guaranteed.

If the Packers dont lay some groundwork with Hawk before March 4, its a sign teams fully believe they will get at least a few days after a new CBA is signed before the next official league year starts.

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millertime
14 years ago
I have to think the Packers and Hawk have had an arrangement in place for a while. This $10 million issue didn't sneak up on anyone.

I see the Packers giving him a contract extension that spreads out the money over multiple years, giving Hawk a nice reward for his durability and some long term security.

I think we can afford only 3 of our current inside backers.

Bishop is a lock.

Hawk seems like he'll stay in GB, mainly b/c of his leadership and durability.

Barnett is more of an impact player than Chillar. He also is more fiery.

Chillar is better in coverage (although I think we overrate him slightly), but also has a better attitude than Barnett (especially if they receive less playing time.)

Knowing TT, he'll probably find a way to keep both of them.
14 years ago
Adding years for the same money or restructuring the money into other incentives (so he can still earn the money) is the way to go.

However, Ted Thompson doesn't like to monkey with contracts to the downside. Usually it is an extension, left it alone, or cut the player.

There will be a deal where everyone can claim to ssave face.
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wpr
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14 years ago
GB has a wealth of ILB. Too bad one of them can't move over to the OLB position opposite CM3. I don't care if he can't rush the QB. There are plenty of other options to get the the QB besides bringing a 2nd OLB.

I wold like to see GB and Hawk get a deal done that everyone can live with. I would hope they don't test the legal parameters and wait until after March 4.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

GB has a wealth of ILB. Too bad one of them can't move over to the OLB position opposite CM3. I don't care if he can't rush the QB. There are plenty of other options to get the the QB besides bringing a 2nd OLB.

"wpr" wrote:



You lost me there. I think pass rushing skills are essential for that position. I realize that they may not get a great pass rusher at that position, but they should at least try. Zombo was good enough, but they should look for an upgrade.
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wpr
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14 years ago

GB has a wealth of ILB. Too bad one of them can't move over to the OLB position opposite CM3. I don't care if he can't rush the QB. There are plenty of other options to get the the QB besides bringing a 2nd OLB.

"Greg C." wrote:



You lost me there. I think pass rushing skills are essential for that position. I realize that they may not get a great pass rusher at that position, but they should at least try. Zombo was good enough, but they should look for an upgrade.

"wpr" wrote:


If he can cover a TE or RB coming out, if he is death against he run, if he can play contain and keep the ball carrier (RB or receiver) from getting outside, I can live with that.
You can get LB blitzing from up the middle. You can get Woody, Shields or a safety coming off the edge. I don't think a 2nd OLB blitzing is critical to the position. It is nice to have the luxury of a player who can blitz and pressure the QB but it is not the first qualification of the position.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

It is nice to have the luxury of a player who can blitz and pressure the QB but it is not the first qualification of the position.

"wpr" wrote:



I thought it was, actually, and I still do, but you make some good points. +1
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wpr
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14 years ago

It is nice to have the luxury of a player who can blitz and pressure the QB but it is not the first qualification of the position.

"Greg C." wrote:



I thought it was, actually, and I still do, but you make some good points. +1

"wpr" wrote:



Ted may well think so too. But there are a lot of things a player can do and if he does all of them well EXCEPT rush the QB, I can live with that.
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doddpower
14 years ago

It is nice to have the luxury of a player who can blitz and pressure the QB but it is not the first qualification of the position.

"Greg C." wrote:



I thought it was, actually, and I still do, but you make some good points. +1

"wpr" wrote:



I would agree with you. While certainly not the only part of ones game that's important, but rushing the passer has got to be the #1 priority of an outside LBer in this scheme. It can be disguised and schemed for an OLBer's ineffectiveness of rushing the passer but I would imagine most defensive coordinators would take a better pass rusher than a run stuffer / cover guy any day, especially with Doms preference for the nickle package and large quantity of points our offense is capable of scoring.
Greg C.
14 years ago

It is nice to have the luxury of a player who can blitz and pressure the QB but it is not the first qualification of the position.

"doddpower" wrote:



I thought it was, actually, and I still do, but you make some good points. +1

"Greg C." wrote:



I would agree with you. While certainly not the only part of ones game that's important, but rushing the passer has got to be the #1 priority of an outside LBer in this scheme. It can be disguised and schemed for an OLBer's ineffectiveness of rushing the passer but I would imagine most defensive coordinators would take a better pass rusher than a run stuffer / cover guy any day, especially with Doms preference for the nickle package and large quantity of points our offense is capable of scoring.

"wpr" wrote:



Another reason to give top priority to pass rushing skills at that OLB position is that if Clay Matthews gets hurt we need to have somebody at OLB who can rush the passer. We saw what happened when Clay got hurt this past season. No pass rush and two losses to mediocre teams.
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