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Offline Greg C.  
#16 Posted : Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:50:42 PM(UTC)
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I think this team has quite a few leaders: Driver, Barnett, Kampman, and Woodson, to name a few. And although Rodgers is young, he already seems to have the respect of his teammates.


Go back to my orginal definition. I honestly don't see any of those guys stepping up and taking the reigns of leadership. They do a little jawing here and there when things are going their way, but overall they don't live up to the role.


Unless you have some secret source, I don't know how you can be so sure about this. Do you expect to see players yelling at each other on the field all the time? All I know is what I see on the field, which really doesn't tell me much, and what I read about. And the guys I mentioned are considered to be leaders by their teammates.
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Offline Bigbyfan  
#17 Posted : Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:16:07 PM(UTC)
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Donald Driver is one of the leaders of this team.

He is vocal when needed.

He never causes drama., such as playing the blame game.

He plays the game how it is supposed to be played.

Plus, he is a damn good receiver! :whipitgood:
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Offline TengoJuego  
#18 Posted : Saturday, October 11, 2008 10:59:11 PM(UTC)
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Brett did not lead this team last year. He kept to himself. He said that numerous times. Al Harris is a/the leader IMO. He seems to be most vocal of the leader type guys.


The unquestioned leader on defense is Charles Woodson, players have said this already.


Brett wasn't a speech type leader, he was more of a I'll show you how its done type leader.


We do need more and better leadership I think on this team.


Thats what I meant...Al is much more lively than Charles. Charles is a silent killer. Al is in your face.
Offline RaiderPride  
#19 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:51:16 AM(UTC)
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Good leaders are made not born. If you have the desire and willpower, you can become an effective leader. Good leaders develop through a never ending process of self-study, education, training, and experience.

To inspire your workers into higher levels of teamwork, there are certain things you must be, know, and, do. These do not come naturally, but are acquired through continual work and study. Good leaders are continually working and studying to improve their leadership skills; they are NOT resting on their laurels.

Let's define leadership. Leadership is a process by which a person influences others to accomplish an objective and directs the organization in a way that makes it more cohesive and coherent. Leaders carry out this process by applying their leadership attributes, such as beliefs, values, ethics, character, knowledge, and skills. Although your position as a manager, supervisor, lead, etc. gives you the authority to accomplish certain tasks and objectives in the organization, this power does not make you a leader, it simply makes you the boss. Leadership differs in that it makes the followers want to achieve high goals, rather than simply bossing people around.


[size=24]THIS TEAM IS IN NEED OF A LEADER[/size]


I thought your post sounded familar.

Copy and paste

Been there. Took the course, and got the T-Shirt.

This is a forum... I hope we all can give our own opinions here. Our own. That is why I love the regulars here who make stupid posts late on Sunday Night after they have been drinking or are just pissed off.

Click the link- To read your post.

http://eclkc.ohs.acf.hhs...sion/ConceptsofLeade.htm
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Offline TengoJuego  
#20 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:54:08 AM(UTC)
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Wow...I uhh...I'm speechless.

+1 Raider
-100000000000000000 twebdonny

lol
Offline Greg C.  
#21 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:50:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
[I thought your post sounded familar.

Copy and paste

Been there. Took the course, and got the T-Shirt.

This is a forum... I hope we all can give our own opinions here. Our own. That is why I love the regulars here who make stupid posts late on Sunday Night after they have been drinking or are just pissed off.

Click the link- To read your post.

http://eclkc.ohs.acf.hhs...sion/ConceptsofLeade.htm


Plagiarism? On the Internet? I am shocked, absolutely shocked. Good catch, RP.
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Offline DGB454  
#22 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:37:20 AM(UTC)
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I don't think he said he made that up himself. Cut him a little slack.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#23 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:54:54 AM(UTC)
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I don't think he said he made up that up himself. Cut him a little slack.
That is true, some people don't know how to use the quote BBCode so maybe we should wait for him to bury himself or clear himself :)
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Offline buckeyepackfan  
#24 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:21:41 AM(UTC)
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So I don't get buried.....I copied and pasted this from FF site!!! :icon_smile: :icon_smile: :icon_smile:

This is the kind of stuff we hardly ever hear about. I hope the meeting have continued in Green bay with Aaron Rodgers and the receivers.
IMHO this type of action shows leadership, I just wonder how many qb's in the league go the extra mile to get the best out of everyone on the team.

"News: Jets QB Brett Favre met with his receivers during the last few seasons in Green Bay, and has continued the round-table format with his new teammates. "It's more of a relaxed atmosphere, which I think is good sometimes because having a coach talk all the time, you tune guys in, you tune guys out," Favre said. "It happens everywhere. Here, having everyone involved, I think is important."

"Analysis: A lot was made - even by Favre himself - of how long it would take for the veteran quarterback to get the Jets' offensive system down from the day he was acquired from the Packers in early August. The brainstorming sessions have helped expedite that process. "I think quarterbacks should be in every meeting with receivers because you work hand-in-hand with them," Favre said. "That's like having the right guard and right tackle not in a meeting with the left guard and left tackle. They have to work in unison." From all indications, the meetings have helped. Favre is ranked first in the NFL with a 110.8 quarterback rating and 12 touchdowns entering the Jets' game Sunday against winless Cincinnati. Continue to start him in all leagues."
Enjoy the ride – It kicks and just keeps on kickin’.
Offline RaiderPride  
#25 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:47:48 AM(UTC)
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No big deal. No big crime.

I am just saying I like the original drunken posts.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Offline twebdonny  
#26 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:52:38 PM(UTC)
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What the hell has what I copied and pasted have to do with my premise
that this team needs a leader? Sorry for not being as eloquent as most of you seem to think you are with the wit and wisdom. I'll just stop posting anything from now on. Ya'll have fun. This is the reason I left the "other" forum. The personal attacks.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#27 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:55:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
What the hell has what I copied and pasted have to do with my premise
that this team needs a leader? Sorry for not be so eloquent as most of you
seem to think you are with the wit and wisdom. I'll just stop posting anything from now on. Ya'll have fun. This is the reason I left the "other" forum. The personal attacks.


First of all, settle down. Second, no one is attacking you. I've read the comments and even posted my opinion on it. If you feel that is attacking you, you my friend are way to sensitive.

You posted something that without quotes makes it appear as it is your OWN words. Is that YOUR fault? Not really, BUT, use the UserPostedImage tags the next time you post something that is not of your own words. That is all.

Again, NO ONE is attacking YOU and if they were, myself or Pack93z would have addressed it immediately.
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Offline arrowgargantuan  
#28 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:04:00 PM(UTC)
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owned.
Offline Pack93z  
#29 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 2:25:30 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
What the hell has what I copied and pasted have to do with my premise
that this team needs a leader? Sorry for not being as eloquent as most of you seem to think you are with the wit and wisdom. I'll just stop posting anything from now on. Ya'll have fun. This is the reason I left the "other" forum. The personal attacks.


Here is the rub... by posting someone elses material without any type of reference leaves you the poster and this website open for the original author to create a stir if they want.

Like Zero said, if you feel attack, let either of us know, that was not the intent of bringing to light..

Feel free anytime to PM me with concerns.. we will work through it if needed.

Please feel free to continue posting. Thanks.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline packedhouse02  
#30 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:29:17 PM(UTC)
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The leader on this team is Woodson. I was really hoping that Hawk would step up this year and be the impact player that you hope your getting ina #5 pick. He's a little hurt now, but I was hoping he'd be the next Nitchke type linebacker. Reggie White was the leader when he was with us. I agree with whoever said, that Brett wasn't a leader on this team. Too often he was the guy throwing balls up and getting intercepted when you needed him to make the right play, he was trying to make the great play. Right now an impact player leader would be just what we need.
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