Join Our Green Bay Packers Interactive Community!

We have been providing fans with the best source of Packers information since 2006!
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:36:21 AM(UTC)
MintBaconDrivel

Rank: 3rd Round Draft Pick

United States
Joined: 12/11/2012(UTC)

Applause Received: 97

ProFootballTalk wrote:
Free agency opened 15 days ago.  This year, the initial surge of cash was more limited than ever, more than a few guys settled for one-year deals, and plenty of other players are still waiting to get paid. For some, the issue is cap space.  For many, it can't be.  As of Tuesday, March 26,

...

Others with eight figures include the Packers with $18.3 million, the Bills with $16.8 million, the Dolphins with $15.7 million, the Cardinals with $14.0 million, the supposedly spending-to-the-cap Patriots with $13.4 million, the supposedly cap-strapped Jets with $13.0 million, the Colts with $11.7 million, and the Titans with $10.7 million.

Message modified by moderator Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:03:50 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Delivering the latest and most important updates on the Green Bay Packers for your convenience.
UserPostedImage
Offline wpr  
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:39:47 AM(UTC)
wpr

Rank: Hall of Famer

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 3,020
Applause Received: 1,461

We will probably see more and more teams with room under the cap in the future. There will only be a handful of teams that get into a bind. It is too easy to release high priced players to make room. They will take a hit on the signing bonus but will save the 3rd-4th years of a contract plus in season bonus money.

UserPostedImage

Offline Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:47:11 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool

Rank: Administration

Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI

Applause Given: 1,952
Applause Received: 2,173

Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
We will probably see more and more teams with room under the cap in the future. There will only be a handful of teams that get into a bind. It is too easy to release high priced players to make room. They will take a hit on the signing bonus but will save the 3rd-4th years of a contract plus in season bonus money.


My question is ... why even ink the crazy stupid contract that is going to require restructuring or releasing the player? I don't get that.
UserPostedImage
Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#4 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:30:43 AM(UTC)
PackFanWithTwins

Rank: 1st Round Draft Pick

Joined: 9/26/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 13
Applause Received: 371

The reason there seems to be more cap space than we normally see, is because teams used the end of the old CBA, the uncapped season, and provisions on how to move cap money forward in the new CBA, to set themselves up for the future and correct much of the cap nightmares.

As we move forward the next few years, we will see the good teams able to keep their cap in good shape and those NOT so good teams end up in hell again.
The world needs ditch diggers to Danny!!!
UserPostedImage
Offline wpr  
#5 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:17:12 AM(UTC)
wpr

Rank: Hall of Famer

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 3,020
Applause Received: 1,461

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
My question is ... why even ink the crazy stupid contract that is going to require restructuring or releasing the player? I don't get that.


there are many reasons.

1. spreads out the signing bonus. even if a team suspects that they may not keep a player long term it gives them more room in year 1 and 2. Perhaps a big contract will come off the books down the road so they don't mind the "dead weight penalty" they will get in year 3 and 4.

2. player diminishes in value faster than expected. Injury is one reason. Some players like RB have it one year and loss it "all" the next.

3. Poor agent. Shows his player how rich he will be over the course of the deal but doesn't realize he player is priced out of the market at the end. Note- releasing the player doesn't mean the team is not wiling to keep him. Just not at that price.

4. Draft or FA. The team picks a player who is better than the one they signed and they pay him less. This also applies to players who are already on the team and move up the depth chart.


I am sure there are other reasons but this is what I came up with for now.

UserPostedImage

Offline DakotaT  
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:34:47 AM(UTC)
DakotaT

Rank: Super Bowl MVP

Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)

Applause Given: 661
Applause Received: 1,360

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
My question is ... why even ink the crazy stupid contract that is going to require restructuring or releasing the player? I don't get that.


Why did the banking system pass out all those NINJA loans? It's a way for the owners to screw the players. You don't actually think the owners lost in the last CBA agreement do you?
UserPostedImage
Offline Pack93z  
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:40:36 AM(UTC)
Pack93z

Rank: Hall of Famer

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Bronze: 2012

United States
Joined: 3/16/2007(UTC)
Location: North Central Wisconsin

Applause Given: 395
Applause Received: 1,073

I think the capping for the rookies coming in is also playing a fair role in allowing teams to better manage the cap.. the top end of the draft isn't cluttered any longer with cap busting deals for unproven talent.. allowing more of the cap space to be shifted to the veteran players. It also allows teams to better manage keeping and managing the money factor for developing players.

Trickle down effect if you will.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

UserPostedImage
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error

Tweeter

Recent Topics
12m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

32m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

34m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

38m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / yinzer

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / MintBaconDrivel

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / texaspackerbacker

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

23h / Green Bay Packers Talk / QCHuskerFan