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Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#46 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:47:49 PM(UTC)
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Press-Gazette sports editor Mike Vandermause offers his take on the Packers opting to keep tight end Jermichael Finley and his $8.25 million price tag for the 2013 season.
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#47 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:21:09 PM(UTC)
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Even at what we consider a down year for him compared to 2011. He was still top 10 in the league for TE. Considering that they were never really able to get things going the way they planned. They went basically the entire season, not having all of the weapons on the field, leaving finley dealing with more coverage. One of the things that make TE like Finley dangerous, is getting them behind the LBers. We haven't been able to do that with him because the LBers play deeper because we had no run threat.

If we can add a reasonable run threat, keep Jones, Nelson and Cobb on the field. that alone should open the lanes for Finley.

And if we are really lucky, Quarless makes it back. He is a good blocker, and a much bigger receiving threat than Crabby was.
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#48 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:25:52 PM(UTC)
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LOL, at the ending.

You have to ask yourself. Are the packers better with or without finley.

the answer is a resounding yes


Hey dipwad. It wasn't a yes or no question.
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#49 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:51:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
Even at what we consider a down year for him compared to 2011. He was still top 10 in the league for TE. Considering that they were never really able to get things going the way they planned. They went basically the entire season, not having all of the weapons on the field, leaving finley dealing with more coverage. One of the things that make TE like Finley dangerous, is getting them behind the LBers. We haven't been able to do that with him because the LBers play deeper because we had no run threat.

If we can add a reasonable run threat, keep Jones, Nelson and Cobb on the field. that alone should open the lanes for Finley.

And if we are really lucky, Quarless makes it back. He is a good blocker, and a much bigger receiving threat than Crabby was.


Three things hold Finley back.

1: Finley not knowing the offense. Fortunately Arodge has decided to go over the plays with him every Saturday night before games.

2: Drops. Fortunately he started hanging on a little better this year.

3: Aaron trying to force it deep, even when teams are dropping their safeties back to prevent the long pass.

We have plenty of offensive weapons around him. Having this talent around him actually helps him, imo. He'd suck with Tyler Palco or Christian Ponder trying to get him the ball.
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#50 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:21:28 AM(UTC)
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In most of these highlights, Finley was the first read.

It's probably because defenses never accounted for him early on, but as anybody would tell you, at the beginning of the 2010 season -- the guy was unstoppable before the injury.

McCarthy adapted and went with the offense that didn't rely much on the tight end. With both Finley and Williams progressing and probably Quarless coming back, along with a deep TE draft, I really wouldn't mind McCarthy going with something similar to NE's offense.
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#51 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:39:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
As for those other players you listed that we hypothetically "could" have signed with the $3 million saved by cutting Finley and replacing him with a cheaper option, I don't really buy that either. Based on Ted Thompson comments about teams spending "stupid money," etc., I don't believe Ted would have signed any of those guys regardless of anything to do with Finley. I can't prove that, but it's just the feeling I get from reading his comments. It's definitely not as simple as "If Finley was gone, the Packers could have signed X, Y, or Z." Even with Finley staying, if Ted really wanted one of those guys, I'm sure he would have made it work.


That's the whole point of these hypothetical discussions, though, isn't it? I wasn't really expecting Finley to be cut, either, but that's how I would've done it.
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#52 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:40:34 AM(UTC)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnWzc-PnvUE

In most of these highlights, Finley was the first read.

It's probably because defenses never accounted for him early on, but as anybody would tell you, at the beginning of the 2010 season -- the guy was unstoppable before the injury.

McCarthy adapted and went with the offense that didn't rely much on the tight end. With both Finley and Williams progressing and probably Quarless coming back, along with a deep TE draft, I really wouldn't mind McCarthy going with something similar to NE's offense.


Wasn't it the year after that that we made him our featured receiver and he proved us that he's no Gronk, Graham, Davis or whatever we envisioned him to be?

I remember Rodgers catching a lot of flak for "forcing it to Finley".
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#53 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:03:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rockmolder Go to Quoted Post
Wasn't it the year after that that we made him our featured receiver and he proved us that he's no Gronk, Graham, Davis or whatever we envisioned him to be?

I remember Rodgers catching a lot of flak for "forcing it to Finley".


Yes, they were trying to force it to Finley way too much.

Finley had lit up the Cardinals defense in the playoffs the year before, so they thought he was gonna be unstoppable.

Guess he wasn't a stat whoring gold mine after all.
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