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Offline Pack93z  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:09:50 AM(UTC)
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Simply put.. they are not being held appropriately accountable and thus have little to fear from we the public as a whole.

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Unloved for so long, Congress not fazed by public's disapproval

Four months ago, the United States Congress had a gloomy approval rating of just 12 percent. And that was before most Americans had ever heard of a "fiscal cliff."

The last NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll to measure congressional approval (August), showed that a whopping 82 percent of Americans disapproved of the job Congress was doing, an all-time record for the history of the survey.

By some estimates, Congress' approval rating could now -- after an ugly fiscal cliff fight and the brewing storm over aid to Hurricane Sandy victims -- be nearly within the margin of, well, zilch.

So is Congress doomed to forever be the branch of government eating alone in the proverbial cafeteria of public opinion? And can it go any lower?

For the last four years, no more than one-in-three adults has given Congress a thumbs up, according to the poll. And it's been longer than a decade since more than half of Americans approved of their representative government on Capitol Hill.

Experts say that because the ratings have been so poor for so long, members are no longer fazed by the public's overall disapproval. They note that the lambasting of Congress as a whole has minimal effects on individual races, especially when candidates run against the status quo of the very body they're trying to join.

Some 90 percent of lawmakers who ran for re-election in 2012 will be coming right back to Capitol Hill for the 113th Congress.

"Nobody ever votes on Congress as a whole, they vote on individual members," says Jack Pitney, professor at Claremont McKenna College in California. "The message that most lawmakers give their constituents is 'I'm great, it's these other bozos who are the problem.'"
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline Since69  
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:02:14 PM(UTC)
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What we need is a good hot fire. Followed by term limits and the criminalization of lobbying and corporate contributions....
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:14:39 PM(UTC)
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What we need is a good hot fire. Followed by term limits and the criminalization of lobbying and corporate contributions....


How would you go about defining criminal lobbying? Would it be illegal to contact your representative and suggest that he do something as a private citizen? Only if you've contributed to that person's campaign, or only if you've contributed over X dollar amount? Is the government going to need to keep track of who contributes how much to who, and does that concern you at all?

If you criminalize corporate contributions, what's to stop corporations from setting up LLCs or using existing LLCs to funnel the money through legally? Should unions also be restricted from contributing to campaigns?

It's easy to see problems, it's hard to solve them in a way that will work in the real world without unintended consequences.
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Offline DakotaT  
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:40:22 PM(UTC)
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It's easy to see problems, it's hard to solve them in a way that will work in the real world without unintended consequences.


It wouldn't be hard for me to solve these problems. Guilty until proven innocent.


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Offline Porforis  
#5 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 3:26:30 PM(UTC)
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It wouldn't be hard for me to solve these problems. Guilty until proven innocent.

http://www.google.com/ur...;bvm=bv.1355534169,d.b2I


Well, it WOULD work fine for a while if you got to solve everything since you're always right, thus we don't need to worry about innocent people getting their heads cut off. I just worry what will happen when enough people get together and cut YOUR head off, what sort of a society will we be left with?
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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 4:28:05 PM(UTC)
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Nothing has changed. In the 70's when I was in college we spoke about this in poli sci class. The approval ratings and reelection ratios were like this then.

Everyone hates Congress but they like their Rep. "He/She is the only honest one there." Or "The person running against him/her is a Dem/Rep scumbag so I can't trust him."

I could live without term limits if Congress was required to obey the same laws that they pass. Including making them contribute to Social Security. That and no full pensions for them.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:09:04 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
Well, it WOULD work fine for a while if you got to solve everything since you're always right, thus we don't need to worry about innocent people getting their heads cut off. I just worry what will happen when enough people get together and cut YOUR head off, what sort of a society will we be left with?


There are no innocent men and women in Politics, therefore the odds would be alot better than our current execution policies of the condemned in our prison systems. The beast has been corrupt since the beginning of civilization. I don't know why we even continue to have these discussions especially since all you like to do is smart off to me.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 6:11:24 PM(UTC)
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What we need is a good hot fire. Followed by term limits and the criminalization of lobbying and corporate contributions....


We have the best term limits possible. Elections.



We all need to get more involved. Contact your representatives, research candidates, vote and make sure you get as many people as you can to vote.
The world needs ditch diggers to Danny!!!
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Offline Wade  
#9 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 6:41:24 PM(UTC)
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#10 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:28:36 PM(UTC)
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We as a nation are borrowing $50,000.00 every second of every day.

46 cents of every dollar spent by the federal government is borrowed.

We borrowed yet another couple hundred thousand dollars in the time it took for you to read this.
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Offline DakotaT  
#11 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:41:30 PM(UTC)
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We as a nation are borrowing $50,000.00 every second of every day.

46 cents of every dollar spent by the federal government is borrowed.

We borrowed yet another couple hundred thousand dollars in the time it took for you to read this.


Smart and rich people have been f*cking the poor and stupid since the beginning of time, anything else from you tonight Captain Obvious?
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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:56:43 PM(UTC)
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Smart and rich people have been f*cking the poor and stupid since the beginning of time, anything else from you tonight Captain Obvious?


f*cking the poor and stupid by allowing their money to be used to pay them.

the poor and stupid f*ck themselves, because they are stupid.
The world needs ditch diggers to Danny!!!
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#13 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 8:01:23 PM(UTC)
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Well, at least I finally got promoted from gunny to captain by our rezident commie, lol

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#14 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 8:06:06 PM(UTC)
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f*cking the poor and stupid by allowing their money to be used to pay them.

the poor and stupid f*ck themselves, because they are stupid.


I realize the concept of taking advantage of the poor by people such as yourself really strikes a nerve with you, because you think of yourself as an educated righteous person. But maybe it is time for you to examine yourself a little more deeply and find all the ugliness that is within you. Hating the poor makes you abominable in my eyes and all the f*cks in the world just like you.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, January 3, 2013 8:16:40 PM(UTC)
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I realize the concept of taking advantage of the poor by people such as yourself really strikes a nerve with you, because you think of yourself as an educated righteous person. But maybe it is time for you to examine yourself a little more deeply and find all the ugliness that is within you. Hating the poor makes you abominable in my eyes and all the f*cks in the world just like you.


Go open as many credit cards as you can, pay for all the evils and inequities you view, then repudiate the debt you inure.

Explain to all the evil people at the bank how you were righting all the wrongs, then get back to us. Until then, STFU.

Or go postal. You seem due.

f*cking scary nasty demeanor at times, yet a world-wide-philanthropist. I'm not buyin'.

I bet I couldn't get 50 cents
out of your ass to finish paying for my coke in the vending machine at lunch.

asshole. You should take back what you wrote.

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