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Offline Formo  
#31 Posted : Monday, September 1, 2008 1:39:33 AM(UTC)
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"When everyone is special, no one is".


That quote reminded me of the song, 'Special Ed' by Stephen Lynch.
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#32 Posted : Monday, September 1, 2008 1:44:38 AM(UTC)
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Well.....if his family is willing to do that, i see no problem. I just feel he shouldn't be punished for being an overacheiver. I have seen in recent years, where schools have done away with validictorian because they don't want the 'dumber" kids to feel bad. They might not be dumber, they might just not be applying themselves and working as hard as they can. So they see there are no rewards for hard work, so why work hard? Why try your best if theres no payoff at all in the end? It seems its one thing after another that the PC crowd is attacking. Like not keeping score in games....to me thats STUPID. It's a slippery slope that is getting steeper and steeper with this kind of crap. Once the PC crowd wins one battle, they keep going after more and more. It's a dumbing down of America. Like was stated already in this thread, "When everyone is special, no one is".

There are even some schools that don't use red ink to grade papers because red ink is "too stressful" for the kids. And some schools do not hand out Ds or Fs because it makes the kids feel stupid. And I won't mention that several schools have banned games like "tag", and "dodgeball" as well. Don't want to make the fat un-athletic kids feel bad. Its ridiculous.
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#33 Posted : Monday, September 1, 2008 9:10:08 AM(UTC)
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It's because of soccer moms. they're pussifying American boys.

This is proof. I've been saying this for years.


I don't know about pussifying them but I do know they are ruining football in the highschool level. Everyone wants their kids to join soccer because there is a lot less chance for then to get hurt. When my sons football team is practicing I will sometimes stop in on my way home from work to watch. In the field next to the football practice field they will sometimes have a soccer match going on. There must be at least 100 kids on the team. Most just stand around on the sidelines. I look at the football team and they usually barely have enough kids to make the team. We have a number of kids (my son included) playing both offense and defense.

The school promotes soccer over football. The problem I have with this is the turnout during the games. There appears to only be parents showing up at the soccer games and they are free to get in to. On Friday night football games it's hard to find a seat and you pay $5.00 per person. Not to mention the concession stand revenue. Why in the world would the school push soccer so hard when the local public would rather pay to watch football and won't go see a free game of soccer? I believe it's because of parent preassure. The soccer parents are pushing the school to promote a game that is less violent and anyone can make the team.

Soccer is ruining football because parents are too afraid there kid will get hurt.

Oh back on topic. I think the parents who protest the kid that was too good should put there kids back down stick ball.
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#34 Posted : Monday, September 1, 2008 1:21:36 PM(UTC)
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It doesn't sound like it has anything to do with political correctness, it sounds like the people who run the league and favor the defending champions are pulling shenanigans.
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#35 Posted : Monday, September 1, 2008 5:36:35 PM(UTC)
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It doesn't sound like it has anything to do with political correctness, it sounds like the people who run the league and favor the defending champions are pulling shenanigans.

Maybe it is, maybe not, I don't know. But this kind of stuff is happening all over the U.S. This isn't the only case of this kind of thing. It's just one of the few that has made national news.
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#36 Posted : Monday, September 1, 2008 5:39:00 PM(UTC)
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Well.....if his family is willing to do that, i see no problem. I just feel he shouldn't be punished for being an overacheiver. I have seen in recent years, where schools have done away with validictorian because they don't want the 'dumber" kids to feel bad. They might not be dumber, they might just not be applying themselves and working as hard as they can. So they see there are no rewards for hard work, so why work hard? Why try your best if theres no payoff at all in the end? It seems its one thing after another that the PC crowd is attacking. Like not keeping score in games....to me thats STUPID. It's a slippery slope that is getting steeper and steeper with this kind of crap. Once the PC crowd wins one battle, they keep going after more and more. It's a dumbing down of America. Like was stated already in this thread, "When everyone is special, no one is".

There are even some schools that don't use red ink to grade papers because red ink is "too stressful" for the kids. And some schools do not hand out Ds or Fs because it makes the kids feel stupid. And I won't mention that several schools have banned games like "tag", and "dodgeball" as well. Don't want to make the fat un-athletic kids feel bad. Its ridiculous.

Thank you for bringing all that up! I have also seen stories about what you stated.
Alot of schools have lowered their grading standard so that what WAS "failing grades" now is passing. Of course that makes it look like the schools are doing better, as more kids pass. They don't SAY that it's really because they lowered the standards.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, September 2, 2008 2:05:44 PM(UTC)
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I don't know about pussifying them but I do know they are ruining football in the highschool level. Everyone wants their kids to join soccer because there is a lot less chance for then to get hurt. When my sons football team is practicing I will sometimes stop in on my way home from work to watch. In the field next to the football practice field they will sometimes have a soccer match going on. There must be at least 100 kids on the team. Most just stand around on the sidelines. I look at the football team and they usually barely have enough kids to make the team. We have a number of kids (my son included) playing both offense and defense.

The school promotes soccer over football. The problem I have with this is the turnout during the games. There appears to only be parents showing up at the soccer games and they are free to get in to. On Friday night football games it's hard to find a seat and you pay $5.00 per person. Not to mention the concession stand revenue. Why in the world would the school push soccer so hard when the local public would rather pay to watch football and won't go see a free game of soccer? I believe it's because of parent preassure. The soccer parents are pushing the school to promote a game that is less violent and anyone can make the team.

Soccer is ruining football because parents are too afraid there kid will get hurt.

Oh back on topic. I think the parents who protest the kid that was too good should put there kids back down stick ball.


Loved your last line. Exactly. If their kids suck, then move their kid down.

The other thing about soccer - the scores are so low that if you played a brilliant game or if you completely sucked, the results are the same - no goals. With baseball, there is a written record for if you suck or if you're good. In football, there is a written record for if you suck or if you're good. In basketball, there is a written record for if you suck or if you're good.

In soccer, you can sit around and completely stink up the joint, but there's no way to tell you suck other than someone watching the game. There's no record. Most players on the field will score zero goals that game. So there's little to differentiate the kids who sucked from the kids who were good.

It's the perfect sport for Communism - everyone's equal. Everyone sucks (scored nothing). So everyone is good.
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#38 Posted : Tuesday, September 2, 2008 2:52:05 PM(UTC)
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