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Offline PackerTraxx  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:10:51 AM(UTC)
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On offense I would like to see Aaron take more of what the defense gives them rather than forcing it downfield. Keep drives alive and keep the defense of the field.

On defense just generally more aggressive. We should have better personnel with Perry back, more experience for our 2nd year players, perhaps Huff, and maybe a draft choice or 2 that can help. Has Woodson signed anywhere yet?
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:12:37 AM(UTC)
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I would just like the defense to yield less points than the offense puts up. How? I don't have a clue. Maybe less Ryan Pickett and A.J. Hawk on the field would be a good place to start?

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Offline Mucky Tundra  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:12:28 AM(UTC)
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On offense-Shorter pass plays and running to control the clock to grind down defenses and less throwing deep into defenses that are just sitting back. The offense looked so much better and "organic" at the end of last year once Mike McCarthy started going to the run more rather than seemingly trying to force a hot streak out of Rodgers and getting him sacked constantly. I hope that with losing Jennings, Mike McCarthy will go with a "less is more" approach to offense.

On defense-less of the 2 DL stuff

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:19:12 AM(UTC)
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Offline play2win  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:37:46 AM(UTC)
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I want to see a complete shift to a run oriented power game on offense. Smash the opposing D in the face and wear them out. My feelings all along have been that our personnel on the OL were compromised by falling back into pass blocking sets too often, to the point where we were not as effective in the passing game. I think they are better than they have shown, and I do anticipate EDS will play a big part of our success up front at C.

Most of this is attitude. I want to see this change, so that no one will want to play us. Add a RB to Harris and we can torch the opposition by giving them a heavy dose of both runners, opening up the field for the passing game, while taking the heat off of Rodgers.

As for the defense, I think the only way we improve is by adding personnel on the DL and at S, while hoping our LBs get healthy and improve. I think they should play better with more effective DL play.

Most of this is personnel. Capers simply did not have the players to run an effective 3-4 with all of the injuries we incurred over the past two years.
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Offline QCHuskerFan  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:35:15 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
I want to see a complete shift to a run oriented power game on offense.


This would be great. Then we can release that useless Rodgers rather than have him take up salary space.

Seriously. We could then stop going to the playoffs and I might ascend on the Season Tickets list at a faster rate.

You have a freaking MVP at QB! Everytime you take the ball out of his hands, the other team benefits. I will agree that the Packers need to improve some in their running game. But to switch over to a run oriented power game? That's a fantasy come true for the Bears, Lions, Vikings, etc.

Unless we are going back to the 1960's? But the last few years rule changes favor the passing game more all the time.

Wish all you want. As long as this team has AR, this is going to be a pass oriented Offense. And that's good. Because I personally like winning games.

Remember the Playoff game against the Vikings last year? 24-3 at the half. MVP Peterson was on the other sideline. Were you worried at all about a comeback? I wasn't. Because a run oriented power game is not designed for big comebacks. That game was over. But if that was a Manning, Rodgers, Brady, or Brees on the other side, there would have been concern.

The Packers are one of 3 teams to be in the playoffs the last 4 years straight. Why would you want to radically change the one thing that has worked well?

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:07:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan Go to Quoted Post
This would be great. Then we can release that useless Rodgers rather than have him take up salary space.

Seriously. We could then stop going to the playoffs and I might ascend on the Season Tickets list at a faster rate.

You have a freaking MVP at QB! Everytime you take the ball out of his hands, the other team benefits. I will agree that the Packers need to improve some in their running game. But to switch over to a run oriented power game? That's a fantasy come true for the Bears, Lions, Vikings, etc.

Unless we are going back to the 1960's? But the last few years rule changes favor the passing game more all the time.

Wish all you want. As long as this team has AR, this is going to be a pass oriented Offense. And that's good. Because I personally like winning games.

Remember the Playoff game against the Vikings last year? 24-3 at the half. MVP Peterson was on the other sideline. Were you worried at all about a comeback? I wasn't. Because a run oriented power game is not designed for big comebacks. That game was over. But if that was a Manning, Rodgers, Brady, or Brees on the other side, there would have been concern.

The Packers are one of 3 teams to be in the playoffs the last 4 years straight. Why would you want to radically change the one thing that has worked well?



Did they pass that idiotic rule about the runner not leading with the crown of his helmet? Because if they did, that's just gonna encourage MORE AND MORE PASSING.

I'd like Aaron to "take what the defense gives him" more too.

I would also like more beef on our DL. We need to be able to stuff the run. Those are the biggies. Beyond that, I want another dominant OLB and maybe the safeties to emerge as elite players.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:20:15 PM(UTC)
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I would like to see the offensive line become more physical at the point of attack to all the playbook to become more complete.. I don't want a run based attack, but I want an efficient and viable running threat element to the offense. One in which it can be relied upon consistently to be called upon in all game situations to make the offense a more efficiently balanced attack.

3rd and 1.. we have the utmost confidence they can line up and kick the shat out of the opposition to gain that one yard. Build a lead.. have the confidence in the offense to play ball and control offense to close out games. Defense getting pummeled, allow the offense to flip the time of possession game in our favor and minimize the threat against the defense.

Basically the same premise I wish for yearly.
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Offline DakotaT  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:25:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
I want to see a complete shift to a run oriented power game on offense. Smash the opposing D in the face and wear them out. My feelings all along have been that our personnel on the OL were compromised by falling back into pass blocking sets too often, to the point where we were not as effective in the passing game. I think they are better than they have shown, and I do anticipate EDS will play a big part of our success up front at C.

Most of this is attitude. I want to see this change, so that no one will want to play us. Add a RB to Harris and we can torch the opposition by giving them a heavy dose of both runners, opening up the field for the passing game, while taking the heat off of Rodgers.

As for the defense, I think the only way we improve is by adding personnel on the DL and at S, while hoping our LBs get healthy and improve. I think they should play better with more effective DL play.

Most of this is personnel. Capers simply did not have the players to run an effective 3-4 with all of the injuries we incurred over the past two years.


You realize we have an elite passer and only 2 road graders for offensive lineman, right? I don't disagree with you, but we are nowhere near having the proper personnel for this kind of radical change.

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Offline DakotaT  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:29:25 PM(UTC)
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I would like to see better play calling 3rd down on both sides of the ball. Blitz more on defense, and use a heavy package on 3rd and short and pick up the first down. Every time I see a 20+ yard pass on 3rd down, I want strangle McCarthy and Rodgers simultaneously - unless of course they hit it. One of those you stupid son of / good play type of moments. The odds aren't real good going long on third down.

I'd like to see our defense lead the league in red zone defense - a very critical part of the equation to consistently winning.
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Offline play2win  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:16:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan Go to Quoted Post

You have a freaking MVP at QB!

The Packers are one of 3 teams to be in the playoffs the last 4 years straight. Why would you want to radically change the one thing that has worked well?



You are not understanding. Of course we have an MVP QB. I'd like to see him have all kinds of success, but mostly, winning Super Bowls.

Running the ball more would make everything in the passing game better, especially with an MVP QB. Not to mention, the pass happy play calling has had detrimental effects on our success, and on our ability to win the big games. What about Rodgers continued health? Seems like one hell of a dice game to me, continuing to be as pass heavy as we've been and expecting him to continually come out of it unscathed.

Running more will take the heat off of Rodgers, forcing defenses to play us more honest, instead of sitting back deep in pass coverage with their DLs teeing off on our OL and Rodgers. Who gets worn out then?

And, what have we won these past two years? Bounced mercilessly out of our own Lambeau by the Giants in 2011, and by SF last year.

Running the ball more will also keep our own defense fresh while chewing up clock. You don't want that? Did you not see what adding a quality passer did to a power running game in PIT? 2 SB wins? Granted, I'm talking about doing the opposite in adding a power running game to a high quality passing attack, but the point is the same.

Did you not see who won the SB last year? How many carries do you think the Ravens RBs had in winning that Super Bowl? Against fucking San Francisco? I mean, that was a very powerful team they went up against and beat. They provided the recipe.

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That's exactly what we need to do. And we need the punishing personnel to do it, along with the change in mindset.

Don't be fooled. That power running game they have made Joe Flacco a superstar. BTW, their RBs rushed 30 times in winning the AFC Championship. How many games did we rush 30 or more times by our RBs? What was the result?

Rodgers is a better QB than Flacco. Right? Well, now, does this proposed change sound so preposterous?

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:18:01 PM(UTC)
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I would like to see us get tougher up the middle on both sides of the ball. I want the center of the oline to open up holes for decent yards inside the Tackle position and to hold out rushers putting pressure in Rodgers face.

On D I want tougher up the middle as well. We have good OLB'rs and Corners. We need toughness up the middle in both the run game and pressuring the QB.

Sending Hawk up the middle has produced little. Pressure from the middle has been poor.

I hope for a good tough Center, a stout DL, and a gorilla ILB that will ring ears would be nice.

Just saying our talent is best going outside to in when you look at our WR's, TE's, OLB's, Corners, etc., and the inside guys need to catch up.

You look at SF or Baltimore (last year) in this regard and they both are far and away stronger in the middle than we are.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:36:31 PM(UTC)
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I see a lot in here about wanting a shorter passing game. It seemed to me that last season the Packers had fewer long pass plays than in the two previous seasons. I'd like to see more, not less. Furthermore, I do not want to see the Packers go to a power running dominant game. Better yardage per carry, yes - which Harris and a better O Line should give us, but using a successful passing game to set up spot running plays is what I want to see - not running to set up passing game. What do you guys want? To be like the Vikings? hahaha

I want an O Line upgrade most of all - hopefully Sherrod providing that at LT and Bulaga getting back to 2011 form at RT with EDS continuing to do the job and improve at Center. Secondarily, what I would like to see from the defense is simply getting Perry and Bishop healthy and some kind of an upgrade at DE, either improvement in Neal or a first round draft pick like Jesse Williams or both.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:38:15 AM(UTC)
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No more outside Zone run blocking. More run plays between tackle. Traditional WCO. Slants, drags and screens to setup the deep shots.

Defensively. Attitude and aggressiveness. Get mean up front, and on the edges. Sick of seeing 5-10 yard cushions on the WR. Instead of saying, we need to cover until the dline gets to the QB. I want them to be able ot say, we can take chances and press the WR because the QB won't have time to sit around and find an opening.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:58:28 AM(UTC)
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1. Better OL play by everyone not named Sitton.
2. Better DL play by everyone not named Pickett.
3. More fundamentally-sound tackling.
4. More reliable FG kicking.
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