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Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:16:01 AM(UTC)
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PackersNews wrote:
Brad Jones' new contract makes him higher paid than A.J. Hawk and the team's second-highest paid inside linebacker, behind Desmond Bishop.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:57:56 AM(UTC)
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Hey, let's send Finley a giant check for this birthday too! It is raining money in Green Bay!

Wheeeeee!

IMO, both of these guys have a lot to play up to in these contracts. Let's hope these high prices paid out result in another Lombardi Trophy in Green Bay. That's our goal here, right?
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:09:50 AM(UTC)
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I love articles like this.. ignore the whole contract to pick a segments of it that fits a headline.

The overall compensation doesn't surpass Hawk.. this year, in which the majority of the signing bonus is absorbed in the front of the contract (like Green Bay regularly does) surpassed the cap number of a reworked contract in which much of Hawks signing bonus as already been paid out but still being leveraged against the cap.

Subjective journalism to manufacture a headline. Applause
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:59:54 AM(UTC)
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If Hawk wouldn't have to be pulled o ff the field on third down, he would have never been asked to take a paycut. I'm linebacker envious of the 49er's. I love Matthews, but we have considerable dropoff after that.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:44:24 AM(UTC)
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bleh - I dont know how much we are paying brad 'sucky' jones but wth? - so we wont pay people that are an inspiration to the team or great players but we will over pay lackluster people just because they are sitting in green bay?

geez - serious brad jones hasnt done jack since he's been here; only reason he had that decent year with some sacks is because teams were trying to stop CM and so let jones run free.

No good DE's out there? or even a decent OLB? so what we get rid of zombo and walden (granted sounds like he got a good deal elsewhere) but still I dont even know whose playing our backers -

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:44:24 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dulak Go to Quoted Post
bleh - I dont know how much we are paying brad 'sucky' jones but wth? - so we wont pay people that are an inspiration to the team or great players but we will over pay lackluster people just because they are sitting in green bay?

geez - serious brad jones hasnt done jack since he's been here; only reason he had that decent year with some sacks is because teams were trying to stop CM and so let jones run free.

No good DE's out there? or even a decent OLB? so what we get rid of zombo and walden (granted sounds like he got a good deal elsewhere) but still I dont even know whose playing our backers -



Brad Jones' best contributions to this team is his coverage skills, and those can't be overlooked. He's certainly not an elite coverage MLB, but he is as good and likely better than anyone else on the roster that we have currently seen, imo. Coverage ability from a teams MLB's is a key weakness that can be exposed and abused by many teams, especially against guys like Hawk, Bishop, and DJ Smith.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:30:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
Brad Jones' best contributions to this team is his coverage skills, and those can't be overlooked. He's certainly not an elite coverage MLB, but he is as good and likely better than anyone else on the roster that we have currently seen, imo. Coverage ability from a teams MLB's is a key weakness that can be exposed and abused by many teams, especially against guys like Hawk, Bishop, and DJ Smith.


Agreed, you need a thumper and coverage middle linebacker. When you get two guys that can do both like the 49ers have, then you have the building blocks for a great defense. We do not have that yet in Green Bay. I have my fingers crossed on Manning though.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:58:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Agreed, you need a thumper and coverage middle linebacker. When you get two guys that can do both like the 49ers have, then you have the building blocks for a great defense. We do not have that yet in Green Bay. I have my fingers crossed on Manning though.


I have high hopes for Manning too.

And I agree, Jones has outplayed Hawk. BJ is underrated, imo.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:00:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
I have high hopes for Manning too.

And I agree, Jones has outplayed Hawk. BJ is underrated, imo.


B.J. Raji?

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:05:59 PM(UTC)
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B.J. Raji?


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#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:10:01 PM(UTC)
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BJ is underrated, imo.


You have high hopes for a BJ, eh? Or you think their under-rated? ;-)

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:35:47 PM(UTC)
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Brad Jones does have promise at MLB. Last season was the best I've ever seen from him. 56 Tackles. 2 sacks. 4 PD. 1 FF.

But, those numbers do not correlate to the contract he was given. That's what I do not get. He's going to have to seriously raise his game to earn that. He played the middle last year, and TEs caught passes on us over the middle like crazy last season. With his measureables, he should be good in coverage, 6-3 230 - though I didn't see incredible coverage skills to warrant that kind of contract. Maybe he makes some picks this year.

Hawk's 2010 season might be a good barometer, as his play at MLB was solid. 111 Tackles, 10 PDs, 3 INTs, 0.5 sacks.

Bishop's 2010 was good too. 71 Tackles, 8 PDs, 1 INT, 3 sacks, 2 FFs.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:44:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Brad Jones does have promise at MLB. Last season was the best I've ever seen from him. 56 Tackles. 2 sacks. 4 PD. 1 FF.

But, those numbers do not correlate to the contract he was given. That's what I do not get. He's going to have to seriously raise his game to earn that. He played the middle last year, and TEs caught passes on us over the middle like crazy last season. With his measureables, he should be good in coverage, 6-3 230 - though I didn't see incredible coverage skills to warrant that kind of contract. Maybe he makes some picks this year.

Hawk's 2010 season might be a good barometer, as his play at MLB was solid. 111 Tackles, 10 PDs, 3 INTs, 0.5 sacks.

Bishop's 2010 was good too. 71 Tackles, 8 PDs, 1 INT, 3 sacks, 2 FFs.


I'm not trying to compare the two situations, but many didn't think Aaron Rodgers earned his first big contract extension after a few games, and it turned out to be a steal for the Packers. Point being, sometimes a GM rolls the dice and wins big, and some times they don't and end up over-paying some. It's the ebb and flow of the business. Players don't always get contracts they deserve, both for the good and the bad of the player/organization. Brad Jones reportedly received a lot of interest from other teams, so the market drove up his price a bit. Again, the nature of the business.

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#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:17:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
You have high hopes for a BJ, eh? Or you think their under-rated? ;-)




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#15 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:19:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Brad Jones does have promise at MLB. Last season was the best I've ever seen from him. 56 Tackles. 2 sacks. 4 PD. 1 FF.

But, those numbers do not correlate to the contract he was given. That's what I do not get. He's going to have to seriously raise his game to earn that. He played the middle last year, and TEs caught passes on us over the middle like crazy last season. With his measureables, he should be good in coverage, 6-3 230 - though I didn't see incredible coverage skills to warrant that kind of contract. Maybe he makes some picks this year.

Hawk's 2010 season might be a good barometer, as his play at MLB was solid. 111 Tackles, 10 PDs, 3 INTs, 0.5 sacks.

Bishop's 2010 was good too. 71 Tackles, 8 PDs, 1 INT, 3 sacks, 2 FFs.


56 tackles in how many games? Keep in mind he didn't see the field until about week 6. Prorated over a full season, those numbers aren't bad.
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