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Offline 68md  
#1 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 3:21:36 PM(UTC)
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Started this topic on my home forum, With Flaccos numbers in Rodgers could cost $20 Million plus!

This results in 1 player eating up a huge piece of cap. Add in Matthews and your essentially building a roster with 3-4 top tier players and the rest middle tier and rookies.

Is it worth it ? Thoughts ?
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#2 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 3:29:48 PM(UTC)
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That average numbers is misleading since it is going to be backloaded some when the club and the player will probably rework the deal.. my guess, it is going to consume about 15 million a season for a blue chip QB in cap space for 2013 to probably 2016 when the cap may increase a bit more.

Maybe even less the first year or two of the deal.
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Aaron seems to understand that while he should get paid.. "how much is too much" and hurts the team.

Is it worth it? I say it is.. it is easier to win with and elite QB over not having one.. having one costs money... but it still leaves a large potion of the cap for the remaining peppered in stars with solid depth.

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I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#3 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 4:18:52 PM(UTC)
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#4 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 6:17:09 PM(UTC)
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Why are people freaking out over Flaccos contract? He got .1m/year more average than Brees did. Very little has changed contract wise from whatever it was last week.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 6:36:58 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
Why are people freaking out over Flaccos contract? He got .1m/year more average than Brees did. Very little has changed contract wise from whatever it was last week.


There is a lot of QB's who are going to be extended soon. all of which should realistically be paid less than aaron, but will probably get massive contracts thanks to flacco. the price for aaron will only get higher as more and more of them sign.
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#6 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 6:43:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 68md Go to Quoted Post
Started this topic on my home forum, With Flaccos numbers in Rodgers could cost $20 Million plus!

This results in 1 player eating up a huge piece of cap. Add in Matthews and your essentially building a roster with 3-4 top tier players and the rest middle tier and rookies.

Is it worth it ? Thoughts ?


This is your home forum, you just haven't told everyone else yet. :)

I can see Aaron Rodgers raking in $20 per but I think it's going to be some goofy inflated contract like we see constantly be restructured. I think they should go on a percentage scale. You sign for 3 years at 15% of the salary cap. It would make balancing the salary cap checkbook a lot easier. :)
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Offline DakotaT  
#7 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:37:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
This is your home forum, you just haven't told everyone else yet. :)



If he was named 69, I bet his forum would be cooler than yours Zero. But then again, 68 was the year my mother blessed all of you with me so maybe his forum is cooler. Maybe Mr. 68 should post a link.

Rodgers is the best player in the game and should be paid appropriately. It would be a huge statement though if he signed for $15M per year.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:55:53 PM(UTC)
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Rodgers would be wise to follow Michael Jordan's path. MJ wasn't the highest paid player on his team for many years. He took less money, so the Bulls could surround him with good players. He made a majority of his money through endorsements. I hope Rodgers considers this, and does settle in around 15 million per year rather than 20 million per year. Perhaps he’ll win multiple championships as Jordan did.
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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#9 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 9:07:16 PM(UTC)
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Ya these teams are overpaying their QBs.. Vick got a 100 million dollar contract after 1 good year.. It's not worth giving your QB 20 million a year. I mean seriously I could take 20-30 mil off my contract to make my team better. Especially when the league has a cap. Teams are pretty stupid giving them so much money. No matter what people say about the patriots they are probably the brightest organization every year. Starting with building a team. As they reduced Tom Bradys contract that still has him what making 50,60,70 mil? That should be enough lol.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, March 2, 2013 9:33:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
There is a lot of QB's who are going to be extended soon. all of which should realistically be paid less than aaron, but will probably get massive contracts thanks to flacco. the price for aaron will only get higher as more and more of them sign.


I doubt it. None of those QBs coming up have the leverage Flacco did. It's not like he was just some mediocre QB having a mediocre season then suddenly came up for a contract and got tons of money. He had a phenomenal playoff performance and won a superbowl/superbowl mvp.

It isn't like Rodgers contract is going to be in the 25-30 million dollar range or something now. The max his contract will be is somewhere just above what Brees got which is what it would have been regardless of Flacco.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 12:01:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon Go to Quoted Post
Ya these teams are overpaying their QBs.. Vick got a 100 million dollar contract after 1 good year.. It's not worth giving your QB 20 million a year. I mean seriously I could take 20-30 mil off my contract to make my team better. Especially when the league has a cap. Teams are pretty stupid giving them so much money. No matter what people say about the patriots they are probably the brightest organization every year. Starting with building a team. As they reduced Tom Bradys contract that still has him what making 50,60,70 mil? That should be enough lol.


Tom Brady's contract was extended, the money he was due in 2013 (apprx. 19mil, was converted to signing bonus money, which enables the team to spread that money out over the 3 year contract.

Tom Brady did not take any less money, he was just paid differently to reduce his cap # hit in 2013.

Clay and Aaron's contracts can still be extended, unlike Greg's who's ran out and he will become a FA on March 12th.

The only REAL number to these contracts anymore is the GUARANTEED number.

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Offline nerdmann  
#12 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 2:11:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
I doubt it. None of those QBs coming up have the leverage Flacco did. It's not like he was just some mediocre QB having a mediocre season then suddenly came up for a contract and got tons of money. He had a phenomenal playoff performance and won a superbowl/superbowl mvp.

It isn't like Rodgers contract is going to be in the 25-30 million dollar range or something now. The max his contract will be is somewhere just above what Brees got which is what it would have been regardless of Flacco.


Flacco's overrated.
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Offline steveishere  
#13 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 5:02:47 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Flacco's overrated.


point?
Offline Zero2Cool  
#14 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 7:07:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
point?


Probably saying even if Aaron Rodgers nets a less per year average he will garner more of what he's worth, whereas Joe Flacco was overpaid for his talent.
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Offline dhazer  
#15 Posted : Sunday, March 3, 2013 7:31:11 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Flacco's overrated.



Ya I guess he is over rated as you state and here are some things to base your statement with:


NFL records

First rookie quarterback to start all sixteen games and make the playoffs (shared with Matt Ryan)
First rookie quarterback to win two playoff games
Most starts by a quarterback in first season: 19
Most starts by a quarterback in first two seasons: 37
Most starts by a quarterback in first three seasons: 55
Most starts by a quarterback in first four seasons: 73
Most starts by a quarterback in first five seasons: 93
Most wins by a quarterback in first 80 consecutive starts: 54
Most combined regular and postseason wins in first three years as a quarterback: 36 (tied with Dan Marino)
Only quarterback to start and win a playoff game in each of his first five seasons
Most road playoff wins by a quarterback: 6
Most touchdowns in a postseason: 11 (tied with Joe Montana and Kurt Warner)
Most touchdowns without an interception in a postseason: 11 (tied with Joe Montana)
First quarterback to have a passer rating over 100 in all four games of a single postseason
Most consecutive playoff games with three passing touchdowns: 3 (tied with Bernie Kosar, Kurt Warner, and Aaron Rodgers)

with a 9-4 playoff record :(


Damn he sure is over rated what are they thinking?
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