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Online nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:54:04 AM(UTC)
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Jones is a two-time first-team Associated Press All-American in each of the past two seasons, in 2011 as a tackle and in 2012 as a center. He was the nation’s Outland Trophy winner as the nation’s best interior lineman in 2011 and the Rimington Award winner as the nation’s best center in 2012.


Sounds pretty good to me.

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Coming in behind Jones was a three-way tie for second with Stanford tight end Zach Ertz, Notre Dame tight end Tyler Eifert and Alabama running back Eddie Lacy each showing up in nine mock drafts.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:49:12 AM(UTC)
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Green Bay Packers: Keenan Allen, WR, California
Greg Jennings will be a free agent in March. He's proven to be unreliable in terms of staying healthy, so he won't be back. The Packers consequently may target a receiver early in the 2013 NFL Draft. Keenan Allen is the top player available in this situation, so I doubt Ted Thompson would hesitate to pluck him off the board.


I am not too keen on the choice. Even with Jennings packing it up and leaving WR is not a 1st round need.

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Jesse Williams DT Alabama This pick isn't to replace B.J. Raji, but rather to find an heir apparent to Ryan Pickett. Edge pass-rushing help would be nice, but without a realistic option here, Williams offers strength in the middle and flashes penetration by putting his opposition on skates.

Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St. Can he run? That is the main question surrounding Rhodes. He is very good on tape. He's long, athletic and knows how to play the ball in the air. However, I never saw him really tested deep to gauge his top speed. If he runs under a 4.5 40-yard dash, he could go much higher than this spot.

Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame no notes

Travis Frederick C Wisconsin With Jeff Saturday likely on his way out, Frederick, who can play center and guard, could step in and help the Packers right away.

Barrett Jones OG Alabama no notes

Zach Ertz TE Stanford no notes


as the 6 choices.

It is always interesting to see what the "experts" think is a critical need. (Woodson is released so the have to draft a CB to replace him. Rolling Eyes ) If you ask the expert who else does GB have at CB, you would prob get an, idunno. Shrug

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:56:49 AM(UTC)
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I know, let's take another OT in the first round. Well what about the 2 they picked up the the past few years? idunno. Shrug

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D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama: The depth of Green Bay's offensive line has been sorely tested in 2012 with injuries to former first-round picks Bryan Bulaga and Derek Sherrod. The interior was steadier, especially since Evan Dietrich-Smith took over at center but the Packers' inability to protect Aaron Rodgers played a critical role in their loss to San Francisco. There is no simpler way to put it: the Packers offensive line lacks toughness and physicality - two of Fluker's most impressive traits.


Arthur Brown, OLB, Kansas State: For most of the season, it seemed evident that the Packers needed to add more speed on defense and that was never more true than Green Bay's loss in the playoffs to San Francisco. Brown has a nose for the ball with the position versatility to play inside or outside in the Packers scheme.


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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:04:02 AM(UTC)
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this one has to be my favorite. Thanks to Bleacher Report we can see one of Mel Kiper's past mocks.

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Green Bay Packers: Eddie Lacy, RB (Alabama)

It's a deep running back class for Rounds 2 and 3, so reaching for Eddie Lacy isn't a bad idea. Although the Packers need to upgrade the offensive line, Lacy's complete skill set adds balance to Green Bay.


I guess Mel will have to explain this to me again. The draft is deep in rounds 2 and 3 for a RB. Therefore take one in round 1. If the draft is deep in the lower rounds why not actually take a RB in the later rounds where you will get good or great value for your pick? Is he saying Lacy is really a 2 or 3 but go ahead and grab him a round early? If he is gone in round 2 won't there be other RB that will work just as well?

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#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:56:12 PM(UTC)
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I’m driving the Barrett Jones bandwagon. I think he's vastly underrated. In fact, one of the most underrated prospects to come out in some time. When I write my mock, I'm leaning Jones to Packers. It's a good fit, and he has the personality that I believe will impress Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy. I can’t say enough good things from what I saw this year.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:11:58 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
this one has to be my favorite. Thanks to Bleacher Report we can see one of Mel Kiper's past mocks.



I guess Mel will have to explain this to me again. The draft is deep in rounds 2 and 3 for a RB. Therefore take one in round 1. If the draft is deep in the lower rounds why not actually take a RB in the later rounds where you will get good or great value for your pick? Is he saying Lacy is really a 2 or 3 but go ahead and grab him a round early? If he is gone in round 2 won't there be other RB that will work just as well?


I'd like him as a 2nd round pick, not a 1st rounder.



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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:12:00 PM(UTC)
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A center would be optimal, yes. Cooper can play center and Jones would definitely be a good pick.

My favorites though would be Ogletree or Minter to play ILB.

Just please, not another OT. A WR also sounds like a stupid idea, we didn't miss a beat last year with Jennings gone.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:27:17 PM(UTC)
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How about a look at Dion Jordan out of Oregon?

...and how's 'bout Wisconsin lad Travis Frederick @ C in the 2nd round? < -- There's the beef ! (I always like Laughing )

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Offline wpr  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:50:10 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
I'd like him as a 2nd round pick, not a 1st rounder.





that makes more sense than the first round.

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:48:21 PM(UTC)
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I think Ted will take a WR in the 1st.
If Ted haas a chance at any Wisconsin OL no matter what round he should grab him.
And he should also grab Wisconsins OL coach because campen will squander any OL talent they draft.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:14:02 PM(UTC)
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I've yet to be convinced that Barrett Jones is anything more than a good player across multiple positions. I'm not so sure he'll ever be "great" at any single position. Obviously such a versatile player would be valuable to most teams, but I'd rather have a "great" player at a single position than a decent player at three. The criticisms against him, such as him being a "technician" and lacking a nasty side just doesn't sound like what the Packers need out of their first round pick. I would love if they drafted him in the 2nd round, but I just don't think he has the nastiness needed to excel at any one position. Although, he very well good be a solid center. Otherwise, I worry he will just be a good player. Admittedly, I am no where near an expert, however. I also read somewhere that his playing weight was around 290, despite his listed weight being higher. I'm not sure how stout or strong he is at the point of attack, either.

As I said, though, I would love to see him as the Packers center of the future with a second round pick, even if it meant moving up a little.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:31:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
I've yet to be convinced that Barrett Jones is anything more than a good player across multiple positions. I'm not so sure he'll ever be "great" at any single position. Obviously such a versatile player would be valuable to most teams, but I'd rather have a "great" player at a single position than a decent player at three. The criticisms against him, such as him being a "technician" and lacking a nasty side just doesn't sound like what the Packers need out of their first round pick. I would love if they drafted him in the 2nd round, but I just don't think he has the nastiness needed to excel at any one position. Although, he very well good be a solid center. Otherwise, I worry he will just be a good player. Admittedly, I am no where near an expert, however. I also read somewhere that his playing weight was around 290, despite his listed weight being higher. I'm not sure how stout or strong he is at the point of attack, either.

As I said, though, I would love to see him as the Packers center of the future with a second round pick, even if it meant moving up a little.

For what it's worth, he reminds me of Josh Sitton. He gets to the second level with ease and he finishes blocks. I can't emphasis the latter enough. He's a finisher. In this draft, I'm not sure one player is actually great. It's an underwhelming draft, so a good/safe pick is the route to take.

I also don’t buy that he falls to the second round. I think the mock drafts are behind on this guy.


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#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:46:04 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
I've yet to be convinced that Barrett Jones is anything more than a good player across multiple positions. I'm not so sure he'll ever be "great" at any single position. Obviously such a versatile player would be valuable to most teams, but I'd rather have a "great" player at a single position than a decent player at three. The criticisms against him, such as him being a "technician" and lacking a nasty side just doesn't sound like what the Packers need out of their first round pick. I would love if they drafted him in the 2nd round, but I just don't think he has the nastiness needed to excel at any one position. Although, he very well good be a solid center. Otherwise, I worry he will just be a good player. Admittedly, I am no where near an expert, however. I also read somewhere that his playing weight was around 290, despite his listed weight being higher. I'm not sure how stout or strong he is at the point of attack, either.

As I said, though, I would love to see him as the Packers center of the future with a second round pick, even if it meant moving up a little.


Sounds alot like AJ Hawk. And Jordy Nelson...
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:19:21 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
I've yet to be convinced that Barrett Jones is anything more than a good player across multiple positions. I'm not so sure he'll ever be "great" at any single position. Obviously such a versatile player would be valuable to most teams, but I'd rather have a "great" player at a single position than a decent player at three. The criticisms against him, such as him being a "technician" and lacking a nasty side just doesn't sound like what the Packers need out of their first round pick. I would love if they drafted him in the 2nd round, but I just don't think he has the nastiness needed to excel at any one position. Although, he very well good be a solid center. Otherwise, I worry he will just be a good player. Admittedly, I am no where near an expert, however. I also read somewhere that his playing weight was around 290, despite his listed weight being higher. I'm not sure how stout or strong he is at the point of attack, either.

As I said, though, I would love to see him as the Packers center of the future with a second round pick, even if it meant moving up a little.


Just because he can play multiple positions doesn't mean he's not great at any position. I agree with porky, he looks amazing as a center. Definitely worth a 1st.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 6:30:26 AM(UTC)
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I can't argue with hitting the trenches with our R1. C is as big a need as NT and DE. I guess you see which position outweighs the other in draft grade, and pick that best player.

Looking at our immediate needs, I believe DE outweighs all positions. We need a really good one, and the caveat is we need "a really good one" at about 5 or 6 positions on our team: C, DE, NT, LB, S, RB.

If the choice is Jones, great. If the choice is a complete wrecking crew of a DE or a really solid C, I think I'd take the DE. EDS is a pretty good player at C. We can't say the same at DE. We don't have one.
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