14 years ago
2006 training camp opened on July 28th and AJ Hawk signed on July 29th.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2006/07 


2005 training camp opened July 26th and Murphy and Collins were signed on the 28th, Rodgers was signed July 30th.
http://www.packers.com/news/transactions/2005/ 
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2005/07/26/1 

2004 training camp opened July 29th and Joey Thomas was not signed until the 30th and Ahmad Carroll was not signed until August 2nd.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2004/08/ 
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2004/07/29/1/ 
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TheEngineer
14 years ago
Wait, does this mean these guys are going to be on the 53 man roster? Or is it just more bodies for training camp?
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Bigbyfan
14 years ago

Wait, does this mean these guys are going to be on the 53 man roster? Or is it just more bodies for training camp?

"TheEngineer" wrote:



Just means they are going to training camp. Players have to be under some sort of contract to participate in camp.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago
I'm glad that we at least signed Carroll. Even if it was a couple of days in TC already.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

2006 training camp opened on July 28th and AJ Hawk signed on July 29th.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2006/07 


2005 training camp opened July 26th and Murphy and Collins were signed on the 28th, Rodgers was signed July 30th.
http://www.packers.com/news/transactions/2005/ 
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2005/07/26/1 

2004 training camp opened July 29th and Joey Thomas was not signed until the 30th and Ahmad Carroll was not signed until August 2nd.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2004/08/ 
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2004/07/29/1/ 

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Awesome! I love it when someone comes back with sources for their statements! Rock on! Even though you proved me wrong, rock on! lol


I wish I could find those articles that said the Packers signed all their draft picks in time for the UMPHF time in a row. Damn it! I probably misunderstood them as the link prove it was not true.

I think with having two 1s this year, we are in jeopardy of not having them all signed in time. Did we have all in camp last year on time?
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IronMan
14 years ago
Nice research Cheez.
14 years ago
It wasn't research, as much as memory.

Do you guys not remember stories of Nick Barnett watching practice, cell phone in hand waiting to get in the building as a rookie?

Anyway I am saying it is refreshing to start early, as there is no need for extra stress.

Overall, I thought Andrew Brandt did a good job. This area was my only criticism of him.

Some people would say something like "The player only missed one practice" or "He signed after the report date but didn't miss any practice."

We would see stories about how 3 days before training camp, Andrew Brandt was at the Packer offices until midnight working. That got no sympathy with me because he had all of May and June and most of July to get it done.

Now the Packers have gotten it done the last 2 years and I think it is best for everyone to get the signings done early and focus on football.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I must agree, why waste to the last minute to get this resolved? It's not like hunting down a free agent where you don't know if you will land him or not. This is your draft class, so why mess around or what are they doing that takes up there time.
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earthquake
14 years ago
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090616/PKR01/90616125/1058 


The Green Bay Packers have yet to begin contract talks with first-round picks B.J. Raji and Clay Matthews, but the process of signing their eight-man draft class is under way.
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The team on Tuesday announced the signings of end Jarius Wynn, cornerback Brandon Underwood and outside linebacker Brad Jones, its bottom three selections in Aprils NFL draft.

The Packers did not announce terms, but all three players are believed to have signed four-year deals with minimum base salaries. According to NFL sources, Wynn (sixth round, 182nd overall) received a signing bonus of between $105,000 and $110,000, while Underwood (sixth, 187th) received a signing bonus of $102,200. Jones (seventh, 218th) is believed to have signed for around $60,000.

Next come negotiations with mid-round picks T.J. Lang, Quinn Johnson and Jamon Meredith. Then, Packers negotiator Russ Ball will focus on his toughest task: getting Raji and Matthews under contract before training camp begins on Aug. 1.

Between them, Raji and Matthews stand to receive well more than $20 million in guarantees and eat up a large chunk of the $5,443,396 the NFL has allotted the Packers for signing rookies.

Two of General Manager Ted Thompsons previous three first-round picks, quarterback Aaron Rodgers in 2005 and linebacker A.J. Hawk in 2006, missed a day of full-squad workouts while waiting for their contracts to be finalized. But Thompson said on Tuesday he is optimistic Raji and Matthews will be in camp on time.

Theyre a little bit more complicated first-round picks tend to take a little bit more time, Thompson said in a phone call before the three signings were announced.

But I dont know that its over and above challenging. Last year, we had three twos (second-round picks) as opposed to two ones this year. I think its a horse apiece. The agents negotiate for the player, and we negotiate for the club, and we normally find a happy meeting ground.

Raji and Matthews have the same agent, Dave Dunn of Athletes First, who said in an e-mail on Tuesday talks have not begun. Thats no surprise, since most teams negotiate with lower-round selections first and top picks commonly sign just before training camp begins, if not after.

As of early Tuesday evening, the only first-round picks who had signed were quarterbacks Matthew Stafford the No. 1 overall pick who received $41.7 million guaranteed on a six-year deal before the draft and Mark Sanchez of the New York Jets (No. 5, five years, $60 million, $28 million guaranteed).

All of the Packers draft picks the past two years have been in camp before the first practice. Defensive tackle Justin Harrell signed on the eve of camp in 2007, and the Packers didnt have a first-round selection last year, when quarterback Brian Brohm was the last player to sign.

We work at it, Thompson said of getting deals done on time. Our philosophy is were not going to try to win any of the deals we just want to be fair and show its fair for both sides.

Raji, the Boston College nose tackle drafted ninth overall, is in line for one of the richest rookie contracts in Packers history. Last years No. 9 pick, linebacker Keith Rivers, signed with the Cincinnati Bengals for six years and $23 million, with $15.6 million guaranteed. Thats roughly the same amount of guarantees Hawk, who was drafted fifth overall, received on his record six-year, $35 million deal in July 2006.

Matthews, the outside linebacker out of Southern California, was the 26th overall pick. The player taken in that slot last year, tackle Duane Brown, received a five-year, $9.1 million deal from the Houston Texans that included $6.2 million in guarantees.

Though players drafted in the top half of the first round are eligible for six-year deals, all but four of last years top 16 picks signed five-year pacts. Players drafted between picks 17 and 32 are eligible for five-year deals, while all other drafted players sign for four years or less.

The Packers entering player pool is their largest since 2006, when they had an NFL-high $6.647 million to sign 12 draft picks, including Hawk. Intended to slot signings based on draft position, a teams pool number must fit all salaries for drafted rookies, as well as prorated signing bonuses for drafted and undrafted rookies. It can be more complicated with first-round picks, who often receive initial signing bonuses, too.

However, many teams work around the limit with escalators, option bonuses due at the end of a players first year and one-time incentives. Hawk, for instance, received a guaranteed option bonus worth $11,856,250 after his rookie season.

One complicating factor Ball must deal with this year is the accounting changes brought on by the expiration of the collective bargaining agreement, which will lead to a 2010 season without a salary cap if a new deal isnt struck by the start of the next league year. The Packers have contingency plans in place for both scenarios, but Thompson acknowledged the uncertainty poses challenges.

People like, in my position, we like to know things in concrete, and thats not concrete, Thompson said. Thats always a question mark out there.

Etc.: The Packers announced two other roster moves. They released first-year cornerback Joshua Abrams and signed tight end Devin Frischknecht, a 6-foot-3, 258-pound rookie from Washington State.


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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Wow, I wonder what kind of conversations take place in an agent's office when he has two first-round picks on the same team in the same year.
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