Mike Holmgren in 2010?· Page 5

zombieslayer
Registered

14 years ago

I agree with Porky.

Holmgren has ALWAYS had winning records with the Packers. Mike McCarthy has one. One. Uno.

He's been to four NFC Championship games, three Super Bowls and won another.

He won five straight division titles in a row in Seattle.

He won another three in a row in Green Bay.

That's eight division titles.

McCarthy so far has one winning season as a Head Coach.

That's it.

Yup. Why are they even in the same sentence?

Let it be known, I'm rooting for MM. I hope he has a 19-0 season in '09. But geez, you don't reward someone until they produce. Holmgren produced immediately (4-12 -> 9-7, then Playoffs the next year, then Playoffs the year after that, then Playoffs the year after that, then a SB win).

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#42

He's been to four NFC Championship games, three Super Bowls and won another.

McCarthy so far has one winning season as a Head Coach.

That's it.

"porky88" wrote:

McCarthy has been to one NFC Championship game.

warhawk
Senior Member

14 years ago

#43

I agree with Porky.

Holmgren has ALWAYS had winning records with the Packers. Mike McCarthy has one. One. Uno.

"zombieslayer" wrote:

Yup. Why are they even in the same sentence?

Let it be known, I'm rooting for Mike McCarthy. I hope he has a 19-0 season in '09. But geez, you don't reward someone until they produce. Holmgren produced immediately (4-12 -> 9-7, then Playoffs the next year, then Playoffs the year after that, then Playoffs the year after that, then a SB win).

and McCarthy didn't produce immediately? Taking over a 4-12 team and going 8-8 and 13-3? So what your basing this on is one season. I see.

Yeah McCarthy's only had one winning season he's only been here three. You can spit out all the numbers on Holmgren you want but you can't make comparisons when he's been around five times longer to get those numbers.

If your going to do that then McCarthy has been to the NFC Championship Game one in every three years he's coached. That's all you can say because that's all the longer he's been around.

I have not been that impressed with Holmgren's body of work through the entire time he's been with Seattle. Over the last 10 years the West has been Seattle and three of the worst teams in the NFL.

Pretty easy pickens when you want to put all the good stuff up on a board.

"The train is leaving the station."

dd80forever
Registered

14 years ago

#44

This is good stuff. Comparing McCarthy to Holmgren is a total joke.

Holmgren is a proven commodity. McCarthy is wet behind the ears. I'd be curious to see if Mike McCarthy could even land a HC job if GB let him go.

blank

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#45

He's been to four NFC Championship games, three Super Bowls and won another.
He won five straight division titles in a row in Seattle.
He won another three in a row in Green Bay.
That's eight division titles.
McCarthy so far has one winning season as a Head Coach.
That's it.

Wrong, he's been to THREE Super Bowls where ONE he won. Not three Super Bowls and ANOTHER that was won. Unless you're dating back to his 49er days then I think the discussion has lost is creditability. He wasn't their HC.

Amazing how Mike McCarthy gets docked for the 6 - 10? Nothing about taking a 4 - 12 team and doubling the wins the next season though? Interesting. Yet the same thought is okay against Ted? Took a 10 win team down to a 4 win team. We can have ANY consistency at all can we? Wait, we DO have consistency! It's constantly BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD END OF THE WORLD!!

I see how it is. 13 wins, to 6, KILL HIM! 4 wins to 8 wins, bah who cares? I'm an ungreatful fan and refuse to acknowledge that stuff! KILL KILL KILL.

So quick to forget the positives, yet so quick to bash for the negatives.

This is why I admire RP so much folks. He's not afraid to look at the glass half full and dig for some positives. I always thought fans were fanatically fantastic for their team. Albeit he has a twisted way of it sometimes, lol.

warhawk
Senior Member

14 years ago

#46

"dd80forever" wrote:

Yeah, Holmgren is 86-74 in Seattle.

McCarthy is 27-21.

It's so funny I can't stop laughing.

In 10 years Holmgren has taken Seattle to the NFC Championship game once.

That is funny. The same number of times McCarthy has gotten there in three.

"The train is leaving the station."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#47

"dd80forever" wrote:

It is a joke, agreed.

McCarthy is going into his 4th year. Wet behind the years? So, why do dislike mm? Because Ted chose him? 🙂

warhawk
Senior Member

14 years ago

#48

He's been to four NFC Championship games, three Super Bowls and won another.
He won five straight division titles in a row in Seattle.
He won another three in a row in Green Bay.
That's eight division titles.
McCarthy so far has one winning season as a Head Coach.
That's it.

"SlickVision" wrote:

Yeah, Mike McCarthy get's crap for one winning season because after all 8-8 is not a winning season but we hear about how great Holmgren is winning FIVE DIVISION TITLES in Seattle.

Three of those years they finished 9-7. In fact, he finished 9-7 four times tthere. Three other times he had losing seasons.

Now you tell me that if this team finishes 9-7 or worse 70% of the time and only win four playoff games in 10 years we got happy campers around here?

"The train is leaving the station."

Rockmolder
Honored Member

14 years ago

#49

You can't argue that Holmgren has the better resum though. Although that doesn't make him the better current coach.

I don't think we need to replace McCarthy, and I doubt that we'll replace him anytime soon. You can't possibly satisfy everyone, so there will be haters. I often hear that he abandons the running game to fast, doesn't take any risks, passes to little and shouldn't run the ball that often.

warhawk
Senior Member

14 years ago

#50

Look. I like Mike Holmgren. I know the guy is a good coach.

The fact is, however, he has been extremely mediocre in Seattle over the last 10 years and had only one very outstanding season there and that just is what it is.

People want to look way back past that to the years he was here and it was good but that was a LONG time ago.

All I know is I watched Mike McCarthy slam down those headphones at the end of that Bears game and knew right where his mindset was in terms of what he was going to do about it.

Mike Holmgren walked off that field last year and looked like a guy that needed to go into a deep forest somewhere for a very, very long time.

I know which guy I want out there.

"The train is leaving the station."

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

dfosterf (12h) : The only problem with that is he isn't a guard either.

dfosterf (13h) : Put him at right guard. That is where he will be coached. That is where he will compete. He is not even allowed to look at the LT playbook.

dfosterf (18-Apr) : Kidding aside, I hope the best for him.

dfosterf (18-Apr) : Went to a Titans board. One comment there. Not very long. I quote: "LOL" They don't sound overly upset about our aquisition.

beast (18-Apr) : OT Dillard has been absolutely horrible... like OG Newman levels

dfosterf (18-Apr) : Suit him up and have him stand in front of the big board as a draft day cautionary tale.

Zero2Cool (18-Apr) : Packers sign T Andre Dillard.

Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : Adds most of the information this time of year comes from agents.

Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : @RealAlexBarth Bill Belichick says accurate draft information doesn't leak from teams until about 12 hours before the draft. Adds most of th

Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : I am very happy that for moment, Jordan Love seems like a normal human being

Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : Belichick * whatever

Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : "There's a lot of depth at Offensive Tackle and Wide Receiver." Bill Bellichick

Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : Thanks! I can't believe it's over haha

Martha Careful (16-Apr) : Congratulations

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Boom. Student Loan. $0.00. Only took about 20 years.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : Packers DT Kenny Clark: New defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley will 'allow us to be way more disruptive'

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : Saints have agreed to terms on a contract with former Packers wide receiver Equanimeous St. Brown.

beast (12-Apr) : No, but of it's for legislation, then half of the country will find it evil, not good, whatever it says....

Mucky Tundra (12-Apr) : Draft is still 2 weeks away. UGH

dhazer (11-Apr) : Does anyone know of a good AI generator to create letters of Support for legislation?

Zero2Cool (11-Apr) : Gordon "Red" Batty retires as equipment manager

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Sounds like that's pretty certain now.

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Packers "at" Eagles in Brazil. Week One

dfosterf (10-Apr) : Va' Fazer As Malas Va' !

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy tipping us off?

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : “We’re either the first- or second-most popular team in Brazil.”

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Christian Watson got married. Wife better be careful with those hamstrings!! 😂😂

dfosterf (9-Apr) : Those poor bastards

Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Falcons have signed former Packers CB Kevin King, who has been out of football since 2021.

dfosterf (8-Apr) : Collectively, we need to spend more time in what we have, when analyzing ostendible needs and historical proclivities

dfosterf (8-Apr) : I say he is better than so many of these draft picks

dfosterf (8-Apr) : Question of the week for me: Has anyone besides me done any deep dive into the potential of Alex McGough, our 3rd string qb?

Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Or in Tunsil's case, something gets released day of draft or day before lol

Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Seems every year someone does something pre-draft.

dfosterf (8-Apr) : Falling down drunk. The draft board

dfosterf (8-Apr) : Allright! Potential character guy/f#×k up pickup in D'Vondre Sweat!

Zero2Cool (7-Apr) : Go Badgers!!!

Martha Careful (6-Apr) : Go Boilermakers!!!

Martha Careful (5-Apr) : Diggs has not stepped up in the playoffs and has a high cost

beast (5-Apr) : Probably not going to let Diggs walk away unless he's horrible... but according to reports he also might not be as good as he used to be.

beast (5-Apr) : The 25th pick in the draft has been an offensive player since 2017, 2 TE, 2 WR, 1 RB, 1 OC

Mucky Tundra (5-Apr) : Odd, why give up a 2025 2nd Rounder for him if you're just gonna let him walk?

Zero2Cool (4-Apr) : Texans to let Diggs be free agent in '25

buckeyepackfan (4-Apr) : 49r's aign RB Patrick Taylor.

Martha Careful (4-Apr) : Reversion to the mean would indicate we will keep it

Zero2Cool (4-Apr) : It's also been utilized in a trade in 14 of the past 20 years

Zero2Cool (4-Apr) : The 25th pick in the draft hasn't been made by it's original holder since 2016.

Mucky Tundra (4-Apr) : Gotta imagine that Green Bay vs Houston will be a primetime game this upcoming season

Zero2Cool (3-Apr) : No. Kill QB. No worries. 😁

Mucky Tundra (3-Apr) : Diggs, Collins, Dell and Schultz is gonna be tough to cover

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2023 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM

Bears

38 - 20

Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM

Falcons

24 - 25

Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM

SAINTS

18 - 17

Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM

LIONS

20 - 34

Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM

Raiders

13 - 17

Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

17 - 19

Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

10 - 24

Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM

RAMS

20 - 3

Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM

Steelers

19 - 23

Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM

CHARGERS

23 - 20

Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM

Lions

29 - 22

Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM

CHIEFS

27 - 19

Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM

Giants

22 - 24

Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM

BUCCANEERS

20 - 34

Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM

Panthers

33 - 30

Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM

Vikings

33 - 10

Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM

BEARS

17 - 9

Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM

Cowboys

48 - 32

Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM

49ers

21 - 24