longtimefan
15 years ago
My point was that in the beginning the Pats hardly used free agency to nab players that put them over the hump..They picked up players for some depth..

As seasons went on that is when they filled needs right away with f/a and the 1st BIG name I recall was Adalius Thomas
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Does that count undrafted free agents signed the year they came out? I think for all practical purposes those should count as players drafted. Or players who've never played for another team, if you will.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Click the link and count'em up.
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vikesrule
15 years ago

.....I counted quick and only have ten fingers and ten toes.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Most guys that use that method of tabulation can count to 21. ::wink:
zombieslayer
15 years ago

really dude, how many of the players listed actually have made an impact, 1 or two!!!!

"dhpackr" wrote:


Woodson
Pickett
Bigby
Jenkins
Wells
Tramon
Kapinos
Chillar

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



i'll give you Jenkins, but he was injured last season. to list a bunch of defensive players on a team that had a losing season mainly because of the way the defense played, is just not a valid way to prove your point.

"dhpackr" wrote:



You won't name Woody? You're kidding, right?

Woody has a shot at the HoF. 36 career INTs, and seems to have not lost a step at all. 8 INTs/1TD in '06. '07, had a fumble recovered for a TD and an INT returned for a TD. 4 INTs total. '08, 3 sacks, 7 INTs, 2 TDs from those INTs.

Unlike Neon Deion who I adore and own his jersey, Woody can tackle. He's a damn good tackler in fact, and has averaged 63 tackles a season since joining our team. That's pretty impressive for a CB. He plays the run very well.

I'm so stoked we have Woody on our team and defended Ted Thompson when we picked him up and it turned out I was right. If Woody has 3 more seasons like the seasons he's had with us, he's got a more than 50/50 shot of making the Hall.
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PackerTraxx
15 years ago
Gotta give you Woody and Pickett. If we could pick up 2 more FAs like that at positions of need, with our draft, we would turn around in a hurry.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

Gotta give you Woody and Pickett. If we could pick up 2 more FAs like that at positions of need, with our draft, we would turn around in a hurry.

"PackerTraxx" wrote:



Agreed. One solid guy on the DL who can generate pressure and take some double teams off of Kampy would make a world of difference.

The 2nd guy, I'd want on the OL, since you're talking positions of need.
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dhpackr
15 years ago
the interesting fact i need to know is when can i expect the packers to return to the playoffs and compete for a championship??

Right now, i still do not see how Ted Thompson has made the packers a better team in 2009?

we hired a new defensive coordinator, so can I expect the defense to be better in 2009, and actually stop teams from scoring? does hiring a coordinator automatically make the packers better?

i don't think so, and if green bay posts another losing season, i think we need to take a look at Ted Thompson overall game plan.

with the defense and special teams playing so poorly, I have to seriously question the talent level and depth on the team. which is what another poster is trying to impress on the posters of this forum.

and there is only one person to point a finger at.
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RaiderPride
15 years ago
Have I ever mentioned how much I enjoy Hazer on this forum?

Hazer Has "A Beautiful Mind."

I love the guy! Great Internet radio (Check it out, I am serious.) and a great packer forum contributor.

Oh yes, he is out of his mind. But it is great.

It is like that movie.... "A Beautiful Mind" staring Russel Crow.

Hazer is in this shed in the back of his house, cutting out Packer stats, numbers and Packer atrticles, pasting them on the wall and talking to imaginary people.

Only Hazer see's the equation, not any one else.

But I love him personally. You just gotta love the guy!

Hazer has a beautiful mind.

Keep doing what you are doing my friend... R.P. loves you.
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dhpackr
15 years ago
:pukeright:
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porky88
15 years ago

we hired a new defensive coordinator, so can I expect the defense to be better in 2009, and actually stop teams from scoring? does hiring a coordinator automatically make the packers better?

i don't think so, and if green bay posts another losing season, i think we need to take a look at Ted Thompson overall game plan.

"dhpackr" wrote:



By this logic then signing Albert Haynesworth wouldn't of made the Packers better.

An upgrade is an upgrade know matter where it is. Whether it's in coaching or as backup players. Is Duke Preston and Anthony Smith upgrades? The answer is probably as they're better than the second stringers they're replacing. Is Dom Capers? I would say so.

I agree that the starters need upgrades, but you shouldn't dismissed an upgrade know matter what it might be.
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