beast
8 years ago

I didn't see that. What I saw was aaron making his first read then having to move out of the pocket.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



I think we were watching different games... because the Packers @ Broncos game I saw, the Broncos held Rodgers in the pocket, not letting him out, and the announcers openly talked about how Rodgers first read was never open and he was having to go to second and third reads, which you could watch him moving his head to at least 2 targets and normally more but Rodgers couldn't find anyone open, pull the trigger and accurately get the ball there... again shockingly missing on some of the check down passes.



I have no idea if Rodgers might of got a concussion or not (and I'm doubting he did), but that would explain some of the results. ... and if I remember right, one time Rodgers got a concussion and he and the staff didn't notice.... and Driver noticed and said something about his eyes looking bigger and different.
UserPostedImage
luigis
8 years ago

I think we were watching different games... because the Packers @ Broncos game I saw, the Broncos held Rodgers in the pocket, not letting him out, and the announcers openly talked about how Rodgers first read was never open and he was having to go to second and third reads, which you could watch him moving his head to at least 2 targets and normally more but Rodgers couldn't find anyone open, pull the trigger and accurately get the ball there... again shockingly missing on some of the check down passes.



I have no idea if Rodgers might of got a concussion or not (and I'm doubting he did), but that would explain some of the results. ... and if I remember right, one time Rodgers got a concussion and he and the staff didn't notice.... and Driver noticed and said something about his eyes looking bigger and different.

Originally Posted by: beast 



The Broncos played a containment rush, that's what works best against Rodgers.
And as Texas said our OL had quite a bad game.

I'm starting to agree with Texas that is is amazing how everybody is writing about how great Denver played and nobody is disecting the horrible game we had from the planning (LOL) to the play of the OL that nobody even mentions.

Luis
gbguy20
8 years ago

Aaron wasn't looking for his first read. According to Gary Ellerson, NFL Network just did a segment on all the open guys Aaron passed over in this game.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



can i please get a link to this
nerdmann
8 years ago

can i please get a link to this

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Gary Ellerson, LeRoy Butler and the boys, talking about how Aaron was passing up open guys, waiting to go deep, holding the ball too long and stat whoring.

2pm HOUR 

3pm HOUR . IIRC this is the one were Ellerson says NFL Network did a segment showing all the guys that were open, to whom Aaron would NOT throw the ball.

4pm HOUR .

5pm HOUR
 


“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
gbguy20
8 years ago

Gary Ellerson, LeRoy Butler and the boys, talking about how Aaron was passing up open guys, waiting to go deep, holding the ball too long and stat whoring.

2pm HOUR 

3pm HOUR . IIRC this is the one were Ellerson says NFL Network did a segment showing all the guys that were open, to whom Aaron would NOT throw the ball.

4pm HOUR .

5pm HOUR
 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



thanks.
yooperfan
8 years ago

Gary Ellerson, LeRoy Butler and the boys, talking about how Aaron was passing up open guys, waiting to go deep, holding the ball too long and stat whoring.

2pm HOUR 

3pm HOUR . IIRC this is the one were Ellerson says NFL Network did a segment showing all the guys that were open, to whom Aaron would NOT throw the ball.

4pm HOUR .

5pm HOUR
 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


It's a puzzling situation, but I find it hard to believe that Rodgers puts his personal stats above winning.

sschind
8 years ago

It's a puzzling situation, but I find it hard to believe that Rodgers puts his personal stats above winning.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



It may not be that he is putting personal stats above winning rather he saw the long ball as the best way to win. Unfortunately to the extent of ignoring the short game.

What I saw Sunday night was a Broncos team that played lights out and I think it really got to Rodgers. I think he felt he had to do something big to break us out of whatever the hell it was we were in so he felt like he had to do it all himself. Sometimes that is a good thing sometimes not. I think Sunday night was one of those sometimes not games.
nerdmann
8 years ago

It may not be that he is putting personal stats above winning rather he saw the long ball as the best way to win. Unfortunately to the extent of ignoring the short game.

What I saw Sunday night was a Broncos team that played lights out and I think it really got to Rodgers. I think he felt he had to do something big to break us out of whatever the hell it was we were in so he felt like he had to do it all himself. Sometimes that is a good thing sometimes not. I think Sunday night was one of those sometimes not games.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



The Broncos played lights out, and we "showed up emotionally flat." However we tend to do that on a pretty regular basis, most famously the last 5:00 of the season this past January.

That tendency has not gotten fixed.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
texaspackerbacker
8 years ago

It's a puzzling situation, but I find it hard to believe that Rodgers puts his personal stats above winning.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



There's only one very limited way I agree with this "stat-whoring" crap: I think he kinda cherishes his extremely low interception percentage, and he goes to the extreme to avoid them. In general, that's not a bad thing, but there might be some very rare cases where it hurts. That play where Collingsworth said Cobb was open over the middle and Aaron missed him - what I saw was two LBs crossing, kinda marginally between Rodgers and Cobb. He might have been able to thread the needle, but I think I will go with our all world QB's judgment on the field rather than that of a talking head up in the booth.
Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
luigis
8 years ago

There's only one very limited way I agree with this "stat-whoring" crap: I think he kinda cherishes his extremely low interception percentage, and he goes to the extreme to avoid them. In general, that's not a bad thing, but there might be some very rare cases where it hurts. That play where Collingsworth said Cobb was open over the middle and Aaron missed him - what I saw was two LBs crossing, kinda marginally between Rodgers and Cobb. He might have been able to thread the needle, but I think I will go with our all world QB's judgment on the field rather than that of a talking head up in the booth.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



The problem is that sometimes you can't win a game unless you take some risks. And the game against Denver was one clear example, just waiting for somebody to get open wasn't working so you have to throw some contested balls and hope Cobb or JJ can win a one on one match.

So either Rodgers is dumb to think he can win the game without throwing or he is not dumb but he is so worried about his stats that he can't throw a contested ball even if that is what is needed. I don't like either case.

I prefer to think he was just being disciplined and following a horrible gameplan by MM. Gameplans we can change...
Luis
Fan Shout
dfosterf (44m) : (Your trade up mock post)
dfosterf (1h) : Mucky- The only thing fun to watch would be me flipping the f out if Gute goes up to 13 and grabs Brock Bowers, lol
beast (4h) : DT Byron Murphy II, Texas... whom some believe is the next Aaron Donald (or the closest thing to Donald)
Zero2Cool (5h) : What? And who?
Mucky Tundra (10h) : *sad Mucky noises*
Mucky Tundra (10h) : @JoeJHoyt Murphy said he’s been told he won’t slide past pick No. 16.
wpr (17h) : Just about time to watch Sonny Weaver stick it to the seahags. I never get tired of it.
Martha Careful (17h) : *game plan
Martha Careful (18h) : IMHO, not even close. He is not a guy you game play around.
Mucky Tundra (20h) : is Aiyuk worth a 1st rounder?
Zero2Cool (21h) : 49ers are seeking a 1st round pick in exchange for WR Brandon Aiyuk
Mucky Tundra (22-Apr) : Based on Gutes comments, now I don't feel as silly having 13 picks in my mock the other day
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Zach Wilson to Broncos.
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Gutekunst says he'd love to have 13 or 14 picks. He's trading back huh lol
beast (22-Apr) : Someday we'll have a draft betting scandal
beast (21-Apr) : Sometimes looking extremely amazing, sometimes looking extremely lost
beast (21-Apr) : I haven't looked into the QBs, but some have suggested Maye has some of the most extremely inconsistent tape they've seen
beast (21-Apr) : Well it also sounds like Patriots are listening to trade offers, not that seriously considering any, but listening means they aren't locked
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Maye needs to be AFC
Mucky Tundra (21-Apr) : Not liking the idea of the Vikings getting Maye
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Vikings HC joked that he may or may not have sent flowers to Bob Kraft. That's where rumor came from.
beast (21-Apr) : Can't tell if this is real or BS, but some rumors about a possible Patriots/Vikings trade for #3 overall
dfosterf (21-Apr) : One playbook to my knowledge. I was shooting for facetious.
beast (20-Apr) : I'm not sure they have different playbooks for different OL positions, and Dillard run blocking is supposedly worse than his pass blocking..
dfosterf (19-Apr) : The only problem with that is he isn't a guard either.
dfosterf (19-Apr) : Put him at right guard. That is where he will be coached. That is where he will compete. He is not even allowed to look at the LT playbook.
dfosterf (18-Apr) : Kidding aside, I hope the best for him.
dfosterf (18-Apr) : Went to a Titans board. One comment there. Not very long. I quote: "LOL" They don't sound overly upset about our aquisition.
beast (18-Apr) : OT Dillard has been absolutely horrible... like OG Newman levels
dfosterf (18-Apr) : Suit him up and have him stand in front of the big board as a draft day cautionary tale.
Zero2Cool (18-Apr) : Packers sign T Andre Dillard.
Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : Adds most of the information this time of year comes from agents.
Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : @RealAlexBarth Bill Belichick says accurate draft information doesn't leak from teams until about 12 hours before the draft. Adds most of th
Mucky Tundra (18-Apr) : I am very happy that for moment, Jordan Love seems like a normal human being
Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : Belichick * whatever
Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : "There's a lot of depth at Offensive Tackle and Wide Receiver." Bill Bellichick
Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : Thanks! I can't believe it's over haha
Martha Careful (16-Apr) : Congratulations
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Boom. Student Loan. $0.00. Only took about 20 years.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : Packers DT Kenny Clark: New defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley will 'allow us to be way more disruptive'
Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : Saints have agreed to terms on a contract with former Packers wide receiver Equanimeous St. Brown.
beast (12-Apr) : No, but of it's for legislation, then half of the country will find it evil, not good, whatever it says....
Mucky Tundra (12-Apr) : Draft is still 2 weeks away. UGH
dhazer (11-Apr) : Does anyone know of a good AI generator to create letters of Support for legislation?
Zero2Cool (11-Apr) : Gordon "Red" Batty retires as equipment manager
Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Sounds like that's pretty certain now.
Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Packers "at" Eagles in Brazil. Week One
dfosterf (10-Apr) : Va' Fazer As Malas Va' !
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy tipping us off?
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : “We’re either the first- or second-most popular team in Brazil.”
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

21-Apr / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

21-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

19-Apr / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

18-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Apr / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

18-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

17-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

17-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

17-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

17-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

17-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.