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Offline wpr  
#16 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:56:23 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Donald Driver doesn't need to be on the team to be an asset. That same application goes to the Johnny Jolly reference made earlier.

A man can help a man without being in the same uniform. We shouldn't have such boundaries when helping another person.


Sigh. I am talking about opportunity. Of course Driver can offer support from where ever he is at. It is not the same. The impact isn't as strong. The relationship not as deep or binding.

If Donald isn't in the locker room with Lyeria it is a little more difficult to strike up a conversation with him. Driver certainly can call him on the phone but that is a lot different than having lunch together in the team dinning room or inviting him over to his home and playing Madden or Space Invaders or whatever they would do.

Texting once a week is not as strong of a tie as seeing each other every single day on the field.

Likewise with Jolly. Is he even in GB at this time? Do they have any plans to renew his contract?

Believe it or not kids being face to face is a better way to develop interpersonal relationships. It is a superior way to communicate. Phone calls, texts, emails and the like are a distance second at best.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:43:52 AM(UTC)
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The Green bay Packers have a player development program/staff. That is how you help troubled players. I believe Edgar Bennett was assigned this role very early in his career and he was assigned to mentor a troubled player. Obviously, that is the capacity I am talking about as it would be on a daily basis. I don't believe one has to shower naked with a grown man to grow a bond with them.

Harry Sydney has a foundation here called "My Brothers Keeper" and has helped an abundance of troubled boys and men.


The point I have clearly made is this. There are options for the kid, even in the small town of Green Bay, WI.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:49:05 AM(UTC)
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So if it's true that they cleaned out Jolly's locker, then can the team sign him to some kind of contract to look after this guy similar to what the Cowboys did with Dez Bryant? And maybe have Jolly be a assistant to Mike Trgovac? Like, teach guys how to swat down passes?
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#19 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:58:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
The Green bay Packers have a player development program/staff. That is how you help troubled players. I believe Edgar Bennett was assigned this role very early in his career and he was assigned to mentor a troubled player. Obviously, that is the capacity I am talking about as it would be on a daily basis. I don't believe one has to shower naked with a grown man to grow a bond with them.

Harry Sydney has a foundation here called "My Brothers Keeper" and has helped an abundance of troubled boys and men.


The point I have clearly made is this. There are options for the kid, even in the small town of Green Bay, WI.


I never said that the City of Green Bay nor Packers Inc have no options available to them at all.

What I said was it would have been nice if Driver was able to be a role model to him as a member of the team.

Instead of having 3 or 4 options maybe it is the 5th option that would have worked best for him. It is one thing for an adviser to tell him to get his act together. It is another thing for someone who actually lived on the street and had a tough childhood to tell him he too can overcome his past.

Who knows as someone else suggested perhaps it would be Jolly that would work the best.
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#20 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 2:01:48 PM(UTC)
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#21 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 2:27:50 PM(UTC)
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What do they have to lose signing this guy just like any other udfa? just do it already
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#22 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 2:29:27 PM(UTC)
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What do they have to lose signing this guy just like any other udfa? just do it already


As you know, NFL teams only get 90 players to a roster so they are trying to pick the best players for that 90 person roster.

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#23 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 2:31:56 PM(UTC)
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Based on what I have seen posted on here, the guy has to have more potential than at least 1 of our other UDFA's.

Unless they all have people ranting and raving over how talented they are.
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#24 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:25:58 PM(UTC)
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Rob Demovsky wrote:
GREEN BAY, Wis. — The biggest surprise of rookie orientation camp was the Green Bay Packers' decision to bring in troubled former Oregon tight end Colt Lyerla for a two-day tryout.

Now, it might be an even bigger surprise if they did not sign him.

The Packers were leaning that way following the conclusion of camp on Saturday, but general manager Ted Thompson was still mulling it, according to a person familiar with the process who said Thompson planned to sleep on it.
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#25 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:21:28 PM(UTC)
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I hope he makes it all the way to the starting lineup, and we can take that Packer's people bullshit and stick it. Talent is what wins in the NFL, and a team full of good character guys can take a bad apple and help him change. Isn't that what mentoring is all about, or do we just condemn shitheads in their formidable years?
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#26 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:27:28 PM(UTC)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgqbrR8FOYI

Watch this guy and how hard he is to go down. Just one tough SOB...he runs it out of the backfield like Randall Cobb mixed with Eddie Lacy. He brings a varied skill set with impressive measurables that no one else can touch for a TE. His vertical was just .5" less than Davante Adams. He outjumped all TE's at combine by 4". You don't find guys like him very often. Conversely, you don't find guys with his character too often, either. I'm going to bet if he played another position he wouldn't have such a stigma. Aaron Hernandez and the comparison has to make teams nervous. Who wants to take on a troubled TE who could may go Aaron Hernandez on you? I have not read anything about violence but some stuff regarding him has been kept quiet from what I read, if memory serves.
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#27 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:43:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
I hope he makes it all the way to the starting lineup, and we can take that Packer's people bullshit and stick it. Talent is what wins in the NFL, and a team full of good character guys can take a bad apple and help him change. Isn't that what mentoring is all about, or do we just condemn shitheads in their formidable years?


I do too. Packer People has been a myth from the beginning.

Johnny Blood was not a choir boy.
Hornung of course was exemplary.
Lofton and Coffman never had a care in the world.
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#28 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:08:43 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
I do too. Packer People has been a myth from the beginning.

Johnny Blood was not a choir boy.
Hornung of course was exemplary.
Lofton and Coffman never had a care in the world.


And don't forget the biggest shithead of them all: Brett Favre. But all his "skeletons" were put in a vault not a closet.
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#29 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:31:12 PM(UTC)
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#30 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:37:08 PM(UTC)
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